Council on American Islamic Relations asks Muslims not talk to FBI

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  1. HyperX13 macrumors 6502

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    CAIR Promises to Remove Image Warning of Cooperation With the FBI
    Posted on January 13, 2011 at 7:56pm by Scott Baker


    The image is being used on a web page promoting a CAIR California event next month in Oakland. Fox News is reporting that the Council on American-Islamic Relations has vowed to remove the image. But when I checked a few minutes ago it was still there:
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    Even while agreeing to take it down, CAIR officials are not exactly saying they are sorry for using the image, calling it a “subject of misinterpretation”:
    The poster, which appeared on the website of CAIR’s California chapter, features a sinister looking FBI agent with the headlines, “Build a Wall of Resistance,” and “Don’t Talk to the FBI.”

    “I think it’s subject to misinterpretation,” spokesman Ibrahim Hooper told Fox News Radio. “We decided out of extreme caution to take it down.”

    The poster was promoting a conference called, “FBI Raids and Grand Jury Subpoenas: Know Your Rights and Defend Our Communities.”

    The keynote speaker is Hatem Abudayyeh, identified by CAIR as an activist and Palestinian community leader whose home was allegedly raided by federal agents in September.

    Hooper conceded the poster “crosses the line” but refused to renounce the artwork and blamed critics for fomenting what he called a manufactured controversy.​

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  2. yg17 macrumors G5

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    They have a constitutional right to remain silent if they so wish.

    If this country starts a McCarthy style witchhunt against Muslims for no good reason other than the fact they're Muslim, then I hope they do remain silent.
     
  3. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, and then they can continue to wonder why people don't like them. :rolleyes:
     
  4. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Why? If they didn't do anything wrong, why should they have to be interrogated? People are innocent until proven guilty in this country.
     
  5. iShater macrumors 604

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    Really? So they should give up their civil rights so you can decide you like them?
     
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    They're being interrogated for a reason. If they're innocent, why shouldn't they cooperate? Maybe they can help give a lead on potential terrorists, that openness would be a benefit to their community. Now they're just separating themselves more from the mainstream and asking for discrimination.

    You do understand that it's not for no reason that they are being interrogated, correct. If a particular mosque is a breeding ground for terrorists. I would expect every single member of that mosque to be interrogated. If they don't cooperate, they are just protecting their own and this is just further proof that the muslim community hardly does anything to fend off extremists. If they don't cooperate, we will just assume they have something to hide. Is that racial/religious profiling? Yes. But so what? They should do the same thing in airports.
     
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    I didn't read through the links that citizenzen posted earlier in this thread, but I'm pretty sure they will explain to you why you might choose not to cooperate with an interrogation by law enforcement, even if you are innocent of any wrongdoing. The law, unfortunately, is not always on your side (note: this is not to say that the majority of cops or FBI agents aren't decent folks).
     
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    I've met very few people that have a problem with Muslims. Maybe just one more? :rolleyes:
     
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    You already made up your mind, they have no reason to give up their civil rights for people like you.

    We might as well take the 2nd amendment away, and the rest of the bill of rights, cause the government is the most trust worthy entity out there. ;)
     
  10. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    So you're saying innocent people shouldn't cooperate with law enforcement?
     
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    I'm saying when any group is targeted they should know their rights, and the government doesn't always ensure that those rights are respected.

    With the recent history of the FBI planting people in the Muslim community and having them try to entrap people, it is fair to question the motives and be sure to know how to handle anything that comes.
     
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    I'm not saying they should be legally obligated to cooperated. Im saying that given the problems with their community and extremism, it would be in the best interest of them and their adopted home nation if they help to bust these people. If they don't, it just makes their stereotype worse. Whether thats a good or bad thing doesnt matter, but its true.
     
  13. HyperX13 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    The groups are targeted because they have the highest chance of knowing about terror cells or terrorists or plots. So they are targeted as they should be. If they are not guilty they should cooperate. Their leaders should not draw up posters and paint the FBI as some enemy.
     
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    you make the assumption that every person interrogated has some knowledge of how to "bust these people". Racial profiling is very real. Some seem to be okay with it, but for those on the receiving end that are wholly innocent.... I'm sorry but it very often may be in *their* best interests not to cooperate. Law enforcement has a particular goal in mind, are allowed to lie in order to obtain information. Any person interrogated by law enforcement, innocent or guilty, is well-served to be informed of and exercise their rights.
     
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    I know not all of them do, but the FBI is definitely looking in the right place. You can't always be politically correct, if you're looking for potential terrorists, the first place you're going to look for them is a mosque. Not a church or synagogue. If that's racial profiling, so be it.
     
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    Just because Law enforcement infiltrates a certain group such as a Mosque ... they are not forcing anyone to commit crimes ... When said criminal gets caught they often cry ... I was entrapped.

    If you give some jerk a bomb and ask him to blow something up ... when he goes and tries only to find that the bomb was fake.

    That is not entrapment ... this is preventing a criminal from actually causing the carnage they were hoping for.

    They were going to commit these crimes anyway ... This is how you catch some of these scum first before some other criminal gives them the opportunity.
     
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    The cartoon character reminds me of Spy vs Spy, from MAD magazine. :D

    Thanks for that flash-back.

    As for the rest, tl;dr
     
  18. Mr. Chewbacca macrumors 6502a

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    How dare they profile while hunting potential terrorists, don’t they know that on the 3rd page of the most wanted list there is a single non Muslim!?!

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists

    Daniel “has ties to animal rights extremist groups. He is known to follow a vegan diet, eating no meat or food containing animal products. In the past, he has worked as a computer network specialist and with the operating system LINUX.”

    They should be interrogating LINUX engineers!!
     
  19. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    :D:D:D My point exactly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with profiling muslims, nothing racist about it. Sorry guys, but you did it to yourselves.
     
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    Linux engineers? ... those pompous *****rds :cool:
     
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    Who are you addressing? :confused:
     
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    Males, in general, I guess. Hard to determine.
     
  23. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Muslims who can't understand why the FBI is all over their mosque.
     
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    In what way did they do it to themselves? Please explain.
     

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