Court Orders End to DADT

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I guess that's that.

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/07/06/Court_Orders_End_to_DADT/
     
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    Good news indeed. But is this the end? I thought when an Appeals court issues a ruling it's only enforceable in that court's jurisidction (i.e., the 9th Circuit)?
     
  4. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    I guess it's not quite clear yet how this will work.
     
  5. mgguy, Jul 6, 2011
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    On to the Supremes? Oh, and notice it was those mean republicans who filed the case.
     
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    It was gay Republicans, not mean ones.
     
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    Another step forward in the fight for equal rights.
     
  8. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    It would mean that if this was a state or a large business, but since the US is bound by the ruling, it applies to the entire country.

    Of course the US is free to appeal:

    Maybe, maybe not. An appeal would take a while and by then it might even moot itself if the armed forces are in the middle of "integration."

    If a rapid appeal is done, the SCOTUS could hypothetically hear the case soon, but they may only go as far as relax the timing deadline and avoid deciding the case on the merits.

    Well it was the "mean Republicans" who passed this discrimination to begin with. One wrong plus one right doesn't make you a hero.
     
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    Light-hearted Republicans? Do they exist outside of a laboratory?
     
  10. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Lee, how is this different from the repeal DADT months ago?

    It is my understanding that part of the repeal was to immediately stop discharges from being processed.
     
  11. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    Perhaps there were a few decent straight ones in there too :) ;)
     
  12. Sam Yikin macrumors regular

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    The military is slowly phasing out the law. They're taking their time to ensure that everything goes as planned when it is finally stopped for good. I believe this ruling means the military immediately has to stop enforcing the law, as opposed to waiting however long their phasing out took.
     
  13. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Exactly, plus it insures that this gets done- no putzing around forever.
     
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    There was no putzing around ... it is coming soon ... I don't see how this changes anything from the current military guidance.
     
  15. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    There have been efforts to undo repeal by the Republicans, or slow it down. This puts an absolute end to those efforts. I know it sounds hard to believe, but there are people in government who genuinely hate us.
     
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    DADT existed in name only already since they dropped enforcement, the military was working on an impeccable transition
     
  17. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    This.

    We have been working on the required training ... discrimination, EO, etc., and there is a required completion date. There is no putzing around, as there are very strict requirements for who must give/attend what levels of training, and when they had to be completed by.

    Lee, I understand your concerns about congress trying to delay it ... but since the repeal was signed by the Commander-in-Chief, only he can reverse it.
     
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    When good things happen it's a few republicans
    When people don't like things the
    Republicans do its all the republicans:rolleyes:
     
  19. leekohler, Jul 7, 2011
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    Unfortunately, that's true. Look what happened with marriage in NY. It was only a few Republicans who made it happen. However, when it comes to things like health care, it IS all Republicans, at least in government. It depends on the issue, obviously.

    However, there have been more than one potential Republican presidential candidates promising to undo repeal. So there goes that theory. Now they can no longer make that promise.
     
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    unless the opponents of repeal can find a judge or a court to order a stay on implementing the Commander-in-chief's order.
     
  21. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Exactly. I learned a long time ago that there are no guarantees, unless the courts make decisions. Even though we had legislative repeal, it could have easily been undone by Republican President. Now, not so much.
     
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