Crackdown on fake news starting to work

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  2. martint235 macrumors regular

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    Still spreading his own though http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39023978 or is that what you define as "attention"
     
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    Despite his words "happening last night in Sweden", White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said separately that Mr Trump had been talking about rising crime and recent incidents in general, not referring to a specific issue.
     
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    agree. he does need to do a better job clarifying things. by "last night" he was referencing a story Tucker Carlson ran about the outrage and 180* turn that's happening in Sweden due to the rise in crime after their open border love has been shown to come back and bite them. He wasn't referencing a specific attack. by not clarifying things he's not doing himself any favors.
     
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    So basically he asks his audience to reference a non-existent event then when he realises he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about, he gets the White House press office to say sorry.

    For a guy who is so opposed to the spreading of "fake news" you have to admit that's pretty poor?

    Still on the positive side, the Swedes (and in fact most of the world) are laughing about it and at him rather than taking it seriously.
     
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    That's called spin. The hypocrisy is strong with you.
     
  7. poloponies macrumors 68030

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    Not buying this line of BS. Either he's as intelligent as he claims he is or he's the wrong man for the job. To have a team of people constantly explaining what you mean is hardly acceptable for the role he's in. Worse yet, to pawn it off on something he heard on Fox News suggests he focus more on his daily intelligence briefings.
     
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    Do you realize that both print and broadcast media have been including retractions and follow up stories to correct misinformation for decades, right? You're attributing this to Trump? That's an amazing reach.
     
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    That's beyond spin I think. Spin is taking the truth and telling it in a different way to make it more appealing/unlikeable but in this case what he said was incorrect and untrue unless he was referencing the road closures in Northern Sweden due to adverse weather but they didn't really relate to terrorism.
     
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    Credit where credit is due.
     
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    They're lying.

    He tried to start off another fake terrorism attack story, and got caught out.

    End of.
     
  12. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    Donnie always tells the truth.
    Even when he is "lying".
     
  13. samcraig macrumors P6

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    You are either full on trolling - or have lost touch with many things. Take your pick.
     
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  15. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    Not at all.
    I merely questioning the meaning of the word lying in this context.
     
  16. samcraig macrumors P6

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    What's to question? A lie is when what you say or write lacks the truth. A falsehood.
     
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    So basically everything CNN, NBC and CBS are putting out.
     
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    Prove it, but we all know you can't.
     
  20. poloponies macrumors 68030

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    No, that would be an example of hyperbole.

    Examples of lying would be words that come out of Trump's, Kellyanne's or Spicer's mouths.
     
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    Meister would also be lying as he made a claim he can't factually support.
     
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    The erosion of the term "fake news" is interesting. What originally referred to actual made-up news stories injected into the mainstream media and being treated as fact (like the one started by the Macedonian teens who were doing it for no reason other than trolling) now simply means "anti-Trump". If it's anti-Trump, it's fake news.

    Fake news = news I disagree with.

    Yet another term rendered useless.
     
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    Journalism is fundamentally about revealing an objective reality. It's not about being fair, or being balanced. It's about getting down to a verifiable truth, in the time allotted for deadlines.

    Now, this is actually quite hard. Many sources are eager to push their own subjective reality, and some are willing to lie in order to do so.

    One way of covering Washington politics is to rely on two sources. Get a quote from some guy at Brookings and another quote from some guy at Heritage, and imply that the truth is "somewhere in the middle." Except... it's not.
     
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    Always tells the truth? Do you really believe that? Do you really believe the man never lies? Really? :rolleyes:
     
  25. samcraig macrumors P6

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    No. While they sometimes get things wrong, you need to look at your hero, Trump if you want the highest lie ratio ever.
     

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