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Criminal Investigation of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Spurred by Apple Requests
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I give Wired credit for turning down the offer after receiving "thinly veiled" requests for money for the phone. I don't like their saying "even going so far as to search alphabetically through Facebook". So what, the idea of going to the police was too far-fetched?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/dude-apple/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/dude-apple/
We all get what we deserve - wishing harm on others is bad karma regardless of what you think that person deserves. The Universe makes up its own mind about these things.
Did your mommy not love you enough? Why so much angst toward a total stranger? You continue to insult me and make it personal rather than an argument against the situation. I never said stealing was ok. Your clouded perception turns everyone who doesn't agree with you into the "enemy".
I am pretty sure I live a good life and don't need your approval. I think your extreme protestations likely point to some sort of projection on your part. Guilt manifests itself in such ways commonly.
If you then post pics, videos and rants about how you are the only person around to have this stolen item?? Yeah, you would.
The phone was totally stolen even if you believe the original guy "I found it" story. You are required by law to turn something over $1000 to the police. Otherwise it's stolen. Amazing people still don't understand this.
Heck, the guy who made $5k should also go to jail for tax evasion since you just know he's going to forget to include this on his taxes next year.
Would you say the same if I wished Osama BinLaden got pubic lice from his camel? Of course not. People should receive harm where harm is due.
What about wishing justice for those who have thumbed their nose at the law?
Kharma works both ways.
I thought all cash transactions of $5000 or more had to be reported to the IRS anyway under money laundering laws. I don't know for sure, but that's what I remember being told in an accounting class.
Also, the law is over $100, not over $1000, but I get where you're coming from and I'm with ya.
Also, the law is over $100, not over $1000, but I get where you're coming from and I'm with ya.
And they will. ...but you and I are not well informed enough of the details and the bigger picture to make that call - hence it being bad karma to wish harm upon others, even if said other is a total douche.
Buying stolen property is not his job. He got thrown under the bus? If he is, it will be by his bosses at Gizmodo, who will claim they didn't know anything about it. You keep posting these passionately baseless comments in all these threads.
Ah, it's $10000 for the IRS to get the report. However, $5000 or more will get you a suspicious activity report from your bank.
It's perfectly understandable that you don't like to be reminded that your blanket defense of a theft makes you a supporter of thieves and dishonest. I sympathize. It's not a good thing to support. Unfortunately it's still true.
Wishing for justice however, is NOT bad Karma. ...as long it is actually JUSTICE you wish for, and not simply harm or juvenile retribution.
Keep blowing your imaginary horn of superiority. Facts be damned as long as coleridge says it is so it must be :|
Isn't the internet cool? You can sit there with no accountability and insult me, a complete stranger, from the comfort of you own home. You should go flex in the mirror and congratulate yourself for another hard fought battle won...or not.
The legal claim may be about buying stolen property. However, in reality Chen's computers were taken because of Gizmodo's exposure of the phone, not because the phone was sold to Gizmodo. If Gizmodo had merely bought the phone and returned it to Apple, do you think Chen's house would have been raided? After all, the house of the person who found the phone wasn't raided. Shouldn't he be the actual target since he actually *sold* the stolen property? This is a publicity stunt on both sides. Gizmodo, to get a gazillion readers to its site. AND Apple, to demonstrate how much power they wield.
Unless, of course, they're looking for internal Gizmodo emails that would tell them exactly what Gizmodo knew and suspected in regards to the legal status of the phone and their part in the purchase of it as stolen property.
Jason,
That is the funniest thing you have said since this started. Just curious, who loaned you a computer?
It isn't imaginary. Yes, the large majority of us who don't approve of stealing from someone with the excuse "they might have, maybe misplaced it before I stole it" are superior, in this particular regard. Not necessarily in any others. But there's no question that the average normal person who isn't a supporter of thieves is, in this matter, superior to you. Sorry that you don't like hearing that. You might consider rethinking condoning theft.
My bad, a typo. Yes, any item over $100 needs to be reported to the police. And it's pure logic that you need to turn something in to the police before selling something that isn't yours.
I doubt this transaction was properly noted anyway. I doubt this guy will note the $5k profit on his taxes next year. I mean he sounds like such an honest guy, right?
The minute $$$ changed hands all legitimacy of Gizmodo and the "finder" went out the window.
If Apple isn't careful, they could wind up looking preeeeety bad from this whole thing - it smacks of anger, hubris, and vengeance if you ask me.... do remember that Chen DID give it back when asked, and promptly. Apple also did not issue a "cease and desist" order or the like.
Spot on...to let it go shows weakness in their minds. Of course the hangers on here will argue that because Apple can do no wrong in their eyes.