Cyberduck is free on the website but for 14.49£ on the app store!!

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by calliope8muse, Mar 27, 2011.

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Should a free software up on the net, be charged on the app store?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. calliope8muse macrumors newbie

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    I have always remembered cyberduck being free under an open source licence and as far as I am aware that means that one should not make money out of it by commercialising it, perhaps only by donations..as is the case if you go to their website and download it.

    Getting the app from the App Store is a different case ALL TOGETHER, you have to pay and there is no link taking you back tot the website itself. Now, this is cheeky I think or hope I am wrong!

    Essentially the 2 above decribed applications are the one and the same, then why please? how can you commercialise an open source built software?

    Does anybody know why? Has anybody noticed it?
     
  2. emiljan macrumors 6502

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    I just checked it out and the price in the US store is $23.99. I would like to know why it costs money too.
     
  3. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    perhaps because they have to pay apple to distribute on the app store?...

    also, it is perfectly fine to sell open source software
     
  4. Kristine macrumors 6502a

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    Cyberduck is OPEN SOURCE, free software (not necessarily free in monetary terms).

    Apple does not approve software which is donation-ware to be on the Mac App Store, so the developer is required to put a price on the software through the store (or list it as free, but in actual fact it is donation-ware) - it is still of course a free download via the CyberDuck website - and if you feel the software is worthy, donations are welcome and encourages further development of the software.
     
  5. nicky0 macrumors member

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    Cyberduck is a brilliant piece of software, and easily worth $23.99. The developer (David Kocher) has put in countless hours of work on this app and has every right to try to make money from his work, *especially* as he has generously made this app available free and open source.

    By charging a price on the Mac App Store he is giving consumers have a choice, download it from the web site for free, and optionally make a donation, or buy it from the Mac App Store and get the added convenience of the instant purchase and installation.

    There is a reasonable argument that someone may pay on the app store without realising they could have got it free. A little research (a single Google search) by an interested buyer would reveal this very quickly, however.
     
  6. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Not the first time shady developers tried to charge for free software.

    $24 is just silly. $1 and people will buy.
     
  7. ScoobyMcDoo macrumors 65816

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    How is making money for the work that one does considered shady? I get paid for the software I write - does that make me shady?
     
  8. Consultant macrumors G5

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    There was a recent case where a third party tried to charge for open-source game.

    Not saying developers should not charge. I buy plenty of iOS and some Mac apps. But try to over-charge App store users is just lame and ensures the developer won't ever see any money from me.
     
  9. ngenerator macrumors 68000

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    I'm all for them overcharging people who are too stupid and lazy to search for their website, and would rather have things spoonfed to them via the Mac App Store
     
  10. ScoobyMcDoo macrumors 65816

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    I absolutely agree that it is very shady to attempt to make money from someone else's work.

    $15 doesn't seem that exorbitant, but if it's not worth that much to you, then by all means avoid paying it. I still don't think it makes this developer shady. Personally, I probably would have chosen a smaller price point and hoped for enough volume to make some cash; but that's just me.

    Truly, what he provides is functionality that, in my opinion, should be built into Finder anyway - but that's a completely different topic.
     
  11. ngenerator macrumors 68000

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    £15 ≠ $15 ;) Regardless, I still agree with everything else. I just would have priced it at $5 and gone from there, not the price that it’s at.
     
  12. Littleodie914 macrumors 68000

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    I wish more people would focus on this, and less on the fact that even though you can optionally purchase the app from the App Store, it's still available for FREE.

    Some people will never be pleased. I've been using Cyberduck for years, this guy deserves to make some money.
     
  13. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030

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    I recently moved away from Cyberduck because I had a lot of problems with it not making connections when I wanted to transfer files. I would try to upload the file and then just hang there never actually starting the transfer. This happened from time to time with versions and it never seemed to be stable enough to use reliably. I found that if I was sending more then 5 to 10 files it would ALWAYS get hung-up and I would have to go through and figure out which files were not sent and do them one at a time. I loved the interface and how it worked, very nice, but when putting files on my server, it was always a pain in the ass.

    I switched to Filezilla and it works perfectly; but just not as slick as Cyberduck.
     
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  15. PatrickCocoa macrumors 6502a

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    Not

    That's actually not what open source means.
     
  16. maflynn Moderator

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    But is is right that he's charging money for an open source application. I will not deny the hard work, but he the author opted not request $$ and he himself embraced open source. Now he's changing his mind and he's charging for free software. That doesn't seem right.
     
  17. Consultant macrumors G5

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    The CyberDuck.ch web site still says "this program is free software."
     
  18. nicky0 macrumors member

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    Not quite true. If you get the free version, it will ask the user for a donation. If you make a donation, you get a donation key which turns off the requests. So the author has always been trying to make an income from this. The Mac App Store is just another approach he is taking to try to get income.

    If someone goes to the app store and searches for FTP app, Cyberduck will come up. He's looking for a piece of that market. Good luck to him.
     
  19. gks macrumors 6502

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    So to summarize what's already been said and to add more to this.

    Open source does not mean free. Open source merely means the source is open and you can see it and work with it if you choose. It doesn't not mean the author(s) cannot charge for that software. Look at many of the various Linux Distributions as an example. RedHat used to sell their distribution on CDs and the whole package was somewhere around $50. That included TONS of open source software on the disc. Yes, you can typically download those distributions for free, but that doesn't mean it needs to be free.

    Next, to put an app on the app store costs money. You need to have the $100 iOS developer account (per year) to put an app or apps on the store. SO... all you people complaining... not only do you expect the author to make the app for free, but you also expect to see him fork out $100 to put it on the app store as well? Wow... that is what I call "special." As in, maybe you should ride the MacRumors short bus.

    The author can charge whatever he wants. End of story. You don't like it? Download the donationware version of the app on the website.
     

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