Link to video debate Participating in this thread really requires you to watch the entire hour of video. Quite an amazing debate. Amazing in the sense that Brown has truly showed how warped the religious and right are when it comes to same-sex marriage. I watched the entire video, and all I could think of the entire time Brown spoke was how can someone with so much contradiction not yet suffer a stroke? Further, he just didn't make SENSE. He said a whole lot of nothing with a whole lot of words. Savage laid out very straightforward points, that could have easily been responded to in a straightforward way. Nothing he said just made SENSE! I tried REALLY hard to understand him, but ended the video with only more confusion about the anti-gay marriage stance. The only time he made sense to me was his response to "Do you agree with making divorce illegal?" He replies "Just because you believe something is wrong, doesn't make it illegal." TAH DAH!!! The first thing logical he says is something that made him lose the entire debate. So sad and uncomfortable to see Brown nearly frothing at the mouth at ~41:00. I really, truly feel sorry for these guys. They've been so possessed by their intolerance/hatred/disgust/(whatever you want to call it) against homosexuals and gay-marriage that they've concocted such a mountain of illogical and downright stupid defenses that they've forced themselves into believing and regurgitating. Reason does not exist in these people's minds. When repeatedly asked to describe the fallout of straight marriages due to same-sex marriage, Brown makes a fool of himself and the entire anti-gay marriage movement by not being able to produce one substantial example. And he wasn't able to because, as reasonable people know, there are none. And it's so pathetic that Brown refuses to even provide a hypothetical example of anything that would allow him to support gay marriage, when Savage did willingly (providing his instance of when he would not support gay-marriage), abiding by the rules of debate and courtesy. Very happy Savage took up Brown's offer for a debate. And I praise him for allowing that man into his house, to sit at his dinner table, and eat with his family and kid. Anyway, this definitely illuminated the numerous fallacies of the movement against same-sex marriage. But I can only see this same video being posted on FRC's or NOM's website declaring a win for Brown. You can only say "marriage should fundamentally be between a man and a woman because that's how humanity should be" so many times. It gets tiring, and is just without any merit. Brown's entire argument boiled down this one statement. One can write an essay on how wrong Brown is, but it's late and I have class tomorrow. And it's not like anything I wrote here is new.