Dark Conspiracy By Clinton, Media, And International Banks

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    How the **** is this guy even in the race? Trump, Bannon and Ailes are trying to burn this country to the ground. Completely ****ing unhinged.


    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-conspiratorial-picture-florida
     
  2. steve knight macrumors 68020

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  3. twietee macrumors 603

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    Clinton Crime Family - I love that term! I'd be disappointed if there isn't a tacky mob flic in there..
     
  4. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    wall street supports her
    neocons support her
    she had to cheat to beat a decrepit old socialist
    she is palling around with the people responsible for funding ISIS and where 17 out of 19 hijackers came from.
    Honduras coup supported by Hillary
    came/saw/laughed at killing Kadaffy
    wants to kill Assad, bombing another nation "looking" for ISIS is an act of war.
    Millions in foreign donations to the foundation.
    got millions from Russia to get the uranium deal passed.
    went after Bill's accusers.

    but Trump said mean things.
     
  5. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    ... and look who's talking...
     
  6. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    with a slight lisp & mexican accent :p.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Meh - that's just a meme. He's done a lot more than talking.
     
  8. twietee macrumors 603

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    You make it sound as if people were just offended because they're too light-skinned (not sure that impression is genuine) when in fact he very clearly occurs as a crazy person. A nutjob, simple as that.

    So I guess you make it yourself a little bit too easy in dismissing those that advocate against voting him.
     
  9. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    none of what Trump has done is worse than what Hillary has supported & got away with.
     
  10. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Pull your head out. It's because Clinton the person and politician is as hugely disliked as Trump. Not by a few voters but by many. You have more problems since you couldn't figure that out on your own.
     
  11. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Not true.

    Trump personally sexually assaulted numerous women. He shafted tens of thousands of small businesses. He left bank shareholders and bond investors with billions of unpaid debts. He actively discriminated against minority tenants in his apartment buildings.

    And understand this: Trump personally did all these things. He was the sole decision-maker in his companies. He alone bears responsibility for the multiple bankruptcies. For the unwanted and unwelcome sexual advances. For the reckless and hate-filled rhetoric.
     
  12. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    The Presidential choice is difficult, but pretty obvious to me:

    One of the candidates is a sleazy, dishonest and self-serving individual. The other is quite apparently mentally unbalanced and unstable.

    Which one would you prefer as the Commander in Chief?

    Duh!

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  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    So Clinton has created a vast, dark, global conspiracy?

    Who says that woman can't get things done? :cool:
     
  14. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    yeah, that is worse than what Hillary has done, colluding with the enemy is treason my friend.
     
  15. twietee macrumors 603

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    So Trump colluding with Putin is not?
     
  16. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    1. trump is not in office
    2. source other than feelings & perception based on stupid remarks.
    3. glad you can admit she is colluding with the enemy.
     
  17. twietee macrumors 603

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    1) You want him to be in office.
    2) I'm on my phone so may have to come back to that later. Given their manly approvances (Putin/Trump) and e.g. Wikileaks agenda I wouldn't call it far fetched too. Would be nice to know if he's in russian pockets but there won't be any sources for that I guess. Maybe his taxes could give a hint but Unfortubately we can't check them.
    3) nope, but I full heartedly admit that I dislike the US foreign policies eversince I can remember. So yes, I think I would highly disagree with the actions Clinton supported. But so did Trump and to me there is zero, absolutely zero, perspective that Donald 'Crazy Dude' Trump would somehow part with said sad policies.
     
  18. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    1 you don't know what you are talking about. voting Pedro this election.
    2. take your time.
    3. if she KNOWS who is funding ISIS then she is colluding with them, we are bombing the wrong nation.
     
  19. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I can certainly understand the isolationist impulse. But, unfortunately, there has been a vast amount of wealth sitting in the ground in the middle east, underneath countries that can't really protect that wealth by themselves. Lots of people would like to just walk away from the Middle East, but, from a national security perspective, that has a lot of implications. Count me among those who think that true isolationism is not an option. Not that I am defending, for example, the 2003 Iraq invasion. But, on September 8th, 2001, a lot of people in the U.S. were taking their kids to school, going to work, thinking about the implications of spreading internet technology and cheap microcomputers, etc. George W. Bush wanted to be known as "the education President" IIRC. On September 10th, 2001, just minding our own business didn't seem like one of the options.
     
  20. twietee macrumors 603

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    Doesn't matter, Pedro won't make - it's either D or H so how is saying you want to see Trump in office incorrect?
     
  21. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    WHO the hell said ANYTHING about isolation?
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    as pointed out, Hillary is a treasonous pig. if that is what you want then have at it.
     
  22. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Even if I were to agree with that, Trump's own misdeeds and gaffes themselves disqualify him from being a reasonable alternative. There are other candidates. Putin and Xi Jinping could run circles around us with Trump at the helm.

    If you were a Johnson/Stein supporter I'd take you more seriously. But fighting for Trump? Nope. However bad Hillary may or may not be, Trump has still failed to demonstrate the personal integrity or intellectual capacity to be president. On the contrary, he has actively demolished his own candidacy by "being Trump".
     
  23. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    funny as hell that pointing out HIllary is WORSE somehow makes me a trump suppporter :rolleyes:

    Gary pissed me off , so Pedro gets my vote.
     
  24. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    You have claimed it. But, you should haven't shown how by any historical definition of "treasonous" that it is true. Working with Saudi Arabia is a bona fide job requirement for the Secretary of State, and, BTW, the President, however much you dislike Saudi Arabia. To call it treasonous is absurd.

    Working with Saudi Arabia privately in areas of common interest, such as public health, is not treasonous either. You obviously think the Saudis should be shunned. That is your personal opinion, but, you or I do not decide personally what is treason. Do you think that anyone who doesn't go along with your idea is committing treason?

    Oh, and about that "pig" part. Does that apply just to women who are overweight, or, also men who are overweight? Does age matter? The attractiveness of the woman (to you)? Count me among the people who find use of the word "pig" in this way reflects on the writer rather than the object of the word.
     
  25. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Do you really think that sort of assertion is helpful to your argument?

    I'm assuming that you are referring to Saudi Arabia. A country which, despite its many faults, is not actually a declared or undeclared enemy of the United States.

    You can certainly call ISIL an enemy of the US - since its own public statements declare its animosity to the US, and indeed all of what we think of as Western Civilization. But the link between Saudi Arabia's government and ISIS is so tenuous as to be non-existent.

    I understand that this is a very complicated and nuanced issue. Not readily amenable to printing on a bumper sticker or a cheap red nylon trucker hat. But the reality is that hundred of Saudi security officers have been killed fighting against ISIL. Saudi Arabia has arrested and imprisoned hundreds of individuals suspected of having links to ISIL. Saudi Arabia's military campaign in Yemen is largely aimed at preventing ISIL-linked groups with seizing control of that country.

    Please take a few minutes to read the BBC article I linked to. It contains a discussion by numerous Saudi and other Middle Eastern scholars of the relationship between Wahabbism (a notably intolerant form of Sunni Islam) and the Islamic State.

     

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