DDoS attacks on Healthcare.Gov?

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    DDoS or not. It's the late night comedy material that provides a brief respite from the ugly reality of being led around like a ship with no rudder.
     
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    Precisely. The amount of hate leveled at this is immense. It should be built to withstand a DDOS attack.
     
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    DDoS attacks, and, other attacks, are a constant fact of life today for any large website regardless of its content or purpose. Every website that has any presence at all, and, is expected to be operating 24-7, has to be built to withstand a lot of pressure from hostile traffic. And, that goes double for websites that have databases behind them containing valuable information that someone could sell at a profit.
     
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    ZDnet is such a ... unique place, when it comes to comments.

    As for the DDoS attack, I don't know why people do these things. It won't make the ACA stop being enacted, it'll just make it harder for the average citizen to comply.
     
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    Considering how hated Obamacare is, I'd be astounded if hackers weren't employed or self-motivated to try their hand at attacking it.

    It would seem a logical political move, to bring down the system partially responsible for the program you couldn't stop by normal political means.
     
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    Hmmm.. The typical Tea Party "patriots" don't look like a uber leet hacker force to be reckoned with, but perhaps their looks are deceiving...

    [​IMG]
     
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    They've at least got the money to hire someone.
     
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    Hmm... Think I'll swing by the local Senior Center wearing my black Fedora and "botnets for hire" t-shirt and see if I get any bites...
     
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    I'd keep the message simple and straight forward ... "Will Crash Obamacare for Cash."

    Or cookies.
     
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    Another day, another excuse. No, old retired people aren't organizing ddos attacks. Even if they had money its illegal.

    Your website still was just money poorly spent and poorly organized, typical government affair.
     
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    And we know that since it's illegal, no one would dare try it.

    :rolleyes:
     
  15. Michael Goff thread starter macrumors G3

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    So I take it you have proof that there really wasn't a DDoS attack?
     
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    Who knows what evil lurks...

    Did anyone ever provide actual "proof" that a DDos attack had actually taken place?

    The original source of this information, a blog posting Marc Eisenbarth on Arbor Networks, said:

    The author then went on to say:

    And then countless "tech sites" on the 'Net pick up the story and regurgitated it, with some sites using a headline with a question mark on the end -- Evidence of DDoS attack on Healthcare.gov? -- while others did not -- New DoS attack directed at Healthcare.gov..


    But hey, "it's the Web", so don't expect much "journalism" to come into play. :eek:
     
  17. Michael Goff thread starter macrumors G3

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    Considering you just basically said "all the online sources are wrong", you're making an impossible task. Several people are reporting that it did happen. You're saying it isn't.
     
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    Keep in mind: If I said the weather report "calls for rain" that doesn't mean that "I'm happy as hell it's going to rain, because I hate dry days!".

    Again, the original source of the information said:

    What is your interruption of what that means?
     
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    I interpret that as meaning that there hasn't been a big attack, that it hasn't succeeded. We do know the system is out there, but they're saying it hasn't succeeded.
     
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    The "system" that's "out there" couldn't succeed -- because this tool (in and by itself) is "unlikely to succeed", according to original source of the information:

    Then the source goes on to say:

    And that's basically about all the "facts" we know...

    ASERT didn't say "it didn't succeed", they said "it was unlikely to succeed".
     
  21. Michael Goff thread starter macrumors G3

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    A failed attack is still an attack.

    I was mostly putting up the article to face-palm the idea of DDoS-ing the site, as if there's a good reason to.
     
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    If I'd read only the article you linked to @ ZDNet, I would probably have gotten that impression as well.

    However, there's no evidence offered in the original source of this information that a "failed attack" took place or that any attack took place, for that matter.

    Please carefully read the original source again.

    The ASERT posting does not not claim, anywhere in the article, that they have any evidence what-so-ever regarding the use of the "DoS Tool".

    So yes, the ZDNet article "jumps to conclusions" that may or may not have actually taken place.


    Oh I totally agree. The "DoS Tool" is incredibly lame. It's (1) lame as a "DoS Tool" (too lame to succeed) and (2) in-general the the whole concept is a lamer than lame way to express one's political dissent.
     
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    The problem with answering the question of whether or not there is or was an attack that made the site less reliable, is that the site has already shown to be so unreliable on its own. It's hard to run out of gas, when you already have a flat tire.

    This kind of thing will be more interesting when normal = humming along.
     
  24. Michael Goff thread starter macrumors G3

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    The site has been working for me recently.



    Also, looks like it wasn't just a rumor
    http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cyber-attacks-on-healthcare-gov-website-confirmed
     
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    Hard to have effective government when those who don't believe in it, are willing to destroy it to prove they are right.
     

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