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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Sep 22, 2004.
this just says to me that the system doesn't work and politicians really have got their priorities wrong.
If our political dialog were able to extend beyond 15 seconds then there is no way we would have this sort of thing. Tell people this extention means more debt that we have to pay interest on. Tell them it will mean cuts in specific services. In short, tell them the truth.
It's so cynical that these people are mortaging our future because they are too afraid to tell people the truth and too afraid to lose their job. Some other liar will come along and spin responsibility into hatred.
sad also is:
- allowing a tax cut sunset to expire is equal to raising taxes
- raising a tax, even when needed, has become political death
shame on the GOP for setting that agenda and shame on the voters for being so single-minded.
I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the real neocon agenda is to cut taxes so sharply that eventually we'd have no choice but to cut government programs, to DRASTICALLY trim down the size of government. HUGE cuts in everything from Social Security to Medicare to highways to schools, with the idea of eventually privatizing almost everything.
because it's political suicide to take away people's social program, the agenda, i believe, is indeed to starve them of funding.
i'm not sure the strategy is limited to neocons.
Hmmm. What a good reason to have a perpetual, unwinnable war.
It sounds like most of these people are bowing to there electorate. Wow imagine that, having to vote for something cause the people at home want it, not because you know better.
So these pro-tax politicans (d & r) will have to follow their own thought, or that of the ones who elected them (which is why they are there to begin with). If they truely believe they need to vote for higher taxes they should run on that platform next go'round.
We have a new category of politician here. Instead of the traditional "tax & spend liberal" we now have the "spend and spend conservative."
At least the former is fiscally responsible in their profligacy.
there are countries that tax a lot and get great services like health care, free college educations and subsidized housing
there are countries that do not tax very much and the services are poor
a lot of both of these countries are deficit free
then there is the US that taxes a lot and the services are poor. That allows us to be a "beacon of freedom" because our military kicks ass.
i misread that as "bacon of freedom" ... doh ... i should eat something before reading on macrumours...
Is that to accompany the "Freedom Fries"?