Dell- $299 desktop

EJBasile

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No need to worry apple that the Mini is to cheap at $499. From dell you can get the following computer.

Dell 2400
Celeron 2.4Ghz
256mb RAM
40gb
CD-ROM
17" CRT
Dell Printer
$299

I had see $400 dell computers but this is amazing how cheaply dell can sell computers for.
 

Sun Baked

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EJBasile said:
No need to worry apple that the Mini is to cheap at $499. From dell you can get the following computer.

I had see $400 dell computers but this is amazing how cheaply dell can sell computers for.
Well, once Apple dropped the price of their low-end machine, Dell had to retaliate just to keep expanding their education share.

This still keeps Dells low-end "system" at half the price of a Mac, unless Apple has something up their sleeve for the eMac -- like $499 well equiped education model.
 

ham_man

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First off, I must say "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...a Celeron... :rolleyes:"....

The Mini would own on that Dell any day of the week. Hell, the Mini owns on any of Dell's budget models. My Dad was looking at getting a new desktop and customized a 750 Dell. Then I navigated him to the Apple site, where, with his edu discount, he could get a computer that just as fast, with more RAM, more HDD, and a much smaller footprint for 75 dollars less. He wound up getting a 630$ AMD 64 at Office Depot in the end. I guess that my reasoning didn't win out with him...
 

miloblithe

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small print:

*no free shipping on items under $499

printer cable to connect "free" printer (not included) $25

1 yr warranty (only 90 day included) $19

DVD and CD-R will cost you $79, DVD alone $20, CD-R alone $40

It comes with no security software. $69

Looks like it will run you more than $500.
 

maya

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How low can a computer be sold for, I predict that within ~5 years time you will see these computers GIVEN away for FREE. As in history calculators used to cost a bit for basic functions and now you can pick one up for free as an Office Give Away. Same will happen with computers, we are well on course. :)
 

maya

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miloblithe said:
small print:

*no free shipping on items under $499

printer cable to connect "free" printer (not included) $25

1 yr warranty (only 90 day included) $19

DVD and CD-R will cost you $79, DVD alone $20, CD-R alone $40

It comes with no security software. $69

Looks like it will run you more than $500.
What do you expect from Dell's BUDGET offerings?

They usual blind sight the ignorant consumer seems to give them an upper hand. :(
 

wrldwzrd89

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maya said:
What do you expect from Dell's BUDGET offerings?

They usual blind sight the ignorant consumer seems to give them an upper hand. :(
Dell can do better than that. Throw a 733 MHz Transmeta Crusoe CPU (PDF) in that $299 PC, and the price will probably drop quite a bit just from that. Even more will be saved with the slower components that CPU requires.
 

maya

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wrldwzrd89 said:
Dell can do better than that. Throw a 733 MHz Transmeta Crusoe CPU (PDF) in that $299 PC, and the price will probably drop quite a bit just from that. Even more will be saved with the slower components that CPU requires.
Heck by the end of this year Dell will sell a $199 USD computer. For Surfing, Email, typing a few Word documents one does not need a 64MB GPU or PCI-e.

Free x86 computers in the future, mark my words. :)
 

Inspector Lee

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miloblithe said:
small print:

*no free shipping on items under $499

printer cable to connect "free" printer (not included) $25

1 yr warranty (only 90 day included) $19

DVD and CD-R will cost you $79, DVD alone $20, CD-R alone $40

It comes with no security software. $69

Looks like it will run you more than $500.
And from what I've heard, all those free dell printers require dell ink cartridges that cannot be bought at any office supply/electronic megalopolis. So that is more shipping plus the hassle of the wait.
 

miloblithe

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Inspector Lee said:
And from what I've heard, all those free dell printers require dell ink cartridges that cannot be bought at any office supply/electronic megalopolis. So that is more shipping plus the hassle of the wait.
That makes sense. That is the fun of the inkjet market.
 

Doctor Q

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Just in the last month, I've been given a free very-low-end digital camera and a free very-low-end PDA from companies I do business with. The low end products have gotten cheap enough for this to happen. So I'll try not to be surprised when I'm given a free computer sometime in the future.
 

maya

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Doctor Q said:
Just in the last month, I've been given a free very-low-end digital camera and a free very-low-end PDA from companies I do business with. The low end products have gotten cheap enough for this to happen. So I'll try not to be surprised when I'm given a free computer sometime in the future.
Scary where Technology in the West is heading. :)
 

dotdotdot

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maya said:
Won't happen till ones ISP gives away a Free Modem. Maybe a Free Modem and Dell. Some local stores have that sort of offer here in Canada. :)
My ISP gave us a free modem... and free installation...
 

wrldwzrd89

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dotdotdot said:
My ISP gave us a free modem... and free installation...
I got a free modem too, and a free "self-installation kit", which isn't as bad as it sounds. The self-installation process is surprisingly simple.
 

yg17

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EJBasile said:
No need to worry apple that the Mini is to cheap at $499. From dell you can get the following computer.

Dell 2400
Celeron 2.4Ghz
256mb RAM
40gb
CD-ROM
17" CRT
Dell Printer
$299

I had see $400 dell computers but this is amazing how cheaply dell can sell computers for.

Is that price after rebates or something? My grandpa bought an HP desktop last year and it wasnt a bad price after the several hundred dollars in rebates. He had so many rebate forms for each component and receipts and other proofs of purchase you almost needed a good lawyer to figure the damn thing. If this Dull is after a few hundred in rebates, its easier for a lot of people to spend 500 on the Mac mini then spend, say 700 on the Dull and wait around for eternity for a rebate.

If there's no rebate involved, then it still has the problem that nothing is included with it
 

Abstract

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Celeron jokes aside, that really is a good deal. For the average user, that's all they need, sans CD-R perhaps.
Agreed. Maybe you see no use for this, but for someone like my mum, I feel that she'd be more than okay with this system. She doesn't need anything techy. The only person she has in her Address book is me. :eek:
She just needs a machine for email and to upload pictures from her digital camera to her computer.


miloblithe said:
small print:

*no free shipping on items under $499

printer cable to connect "free" printer (not included) $25

1 yr warranty (only 90 day included) $19

DVD and CD-R will cost you $79, DVD alone $20, CD-R alone $40

It comes with no security software. $69

Looks like it will run you more than $500.
So? I don't think you get the true purpose of the budget machine. Some of the things listed wouldn't come with a Mini either if it was priced at $299. You're listing those things above as if these are faults. A free printer is not a "fault" of a $299 computer. They give you a printer. No printer comes with a cable. In fact, the printer and 17" monitor are things that aren't even included in the Mini, which is TWICE as expensive. Look at what the better deal is now if Apple were to provide things to a basic user, like the monitor and printer.

Ham_man said:
The Mini would own on that Dell any day of the week. Hell, the Mini owns on any of Dell's budget models.
So the Mini would dust a Dell that's a fraction of the price? SHOCKER!!! :eek:
 

Chappers

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I know what I can do with a Mac mini but what can I do with a Dull at this price? Is it any good? Ignoring the fact that its a PC.
 

EJBasile

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Chappers said:
I know what I can do with a Mac mini but what can I do with a Dull at this price? Is it any good? Ignoring the fact that its a PC.
For basic tasks its fine. Internet, word processing, etc. Its nothing special but its not that bad of a computer especally for $299 with a monitor and a printer (They are horrible, my sister got one for free with her dell and its the cheapest printer I've ever seen/used. And yes you can only order the ink online. She ended up buying an HP).
 

Thomas Veil

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miloblithe said:
small print:

*no free shipping on items under $499

printer cable to connect "free" printer (not included) $25

1 yr warranty (only 90 day included) $19

DVD and CD-R will cost you $79, DVD alone $20, CD-R alone $40

It comes with no security software. $69

Looks like it will run you more than $500.
I'll add to that. I can get generic ink cartridges for my Epson printer for about $6 apiece online. I recently tried finding the equivalent for my daughter's Dell printer. Best price I could find: $20 apiece. So the continuous cost-of-use is higher.
 

miloblithe

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"So? I don't think you get the true purpose of the budget machine. Some of the things listed wouldn't come with a Mini either if it was priced at $299. You're listing those things above as if these are faults. A free printer is not a "fault" of a $299 computer. They give you a printer. No printer comes with a cable. In fact, the printer and 17" monitor are things that aren't even included in the Mini, which is TWICE as expensive. Look at what the better deal is now if Apple were to provide things to a basic user, like the monitor and printer."

I'm pretty sure the last printer I bought came with a cable, but perhaps I'm wrong. The shipping not being included certainly is a real factor. I'm pretty sure even the budget conscious want the computer to leave the factory and arrive at their house. As Thomas Veil ellucidates (the point I was alluding to) the free printer is actually a liability: it's a poor quality printer that ropes those who don't know better into buying very expensive ink cartriges.

On the math side, $299 plus shipping (which I maintain is something you want) is more than half of $499.

We could also mention the lack of a graphics card...

But the basic point is, I don't think this would end up being a very good computer for those who would buy it, nor would it save them lots of money.