Dem Debate: Univision is crushing it.

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  1. aaronvan Suspended

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    I love their tough questioning. And their tough follow-up questions. You see nothing like it on the other networks.
     
  2. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    They asked some pretty good questions, especially the first few questions to start the debate.
     
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    Did they ask Hillary about nafta & TPP? Pretty much selling out the future of our kids?
     
  4. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    Since you LOVE (/s) Hillary so much and talk about her 90% of the time in this forum, you should have watched it like the rest of us. I am sure you could have found something new to criticize her about. :)

    P.S. - by the way, she didn't have a skirt on.
     
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    I'm not home and I mostly just watch HBO or recorded shows on Tv. Can't tell when was the last time I watched the news or a debate , you need fishing waders to watch a debate as the fecal matter starts to rise :D
     
  6. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    Lmao! You missed out, it was a pretty good debate.

    Guess who am I seeing this week?
     
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    Hillary?
     
  8. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    I expected more of the mods. More on climate change anyway. And dumb to press on Benghazi really, the people got tired of that song before Congress did.

    Thought Clinton was good on the student debt thing. Mentioning the out-of-line interest rates and inability to refinance like you can with a car, house.

    Bernie will not make friends in Hispanic electorate of Florida by not discounting his earlier fascination with the leftie governemts south of Mexico. You can be a democratic socialist without loving how assorted Latin American countries' left of center regimes have worked out. Scandinavians have figured this out. Bernie's better when he's more forthright and doesn't seem to be working around a question. I guess considering how young the audience was he didn't want to say "I was young and stupid then" but on the other hand that audience is not naive about South and Central American politics. And there's the matter of the grown children of the exiles from Batista's regime, and their children...

    Clinton probably won on empathy with immigrants, and on rehearsed facts and figures in various responses; she's good at that even when she gets Pinocchio awards for eliding other stuff like the exact issues of having a private email server while working at the State Department. They probably went too far on that thing asking her "what if you're indicted". Spicy but what's the point of that sort of hypothetical.

    I'd fault both candidates for playing those inside-baseball games on which legislation each of them voted for or against. Voters' eyes glaze over at that stuff. They all but spouted bill numbers at each other at one point when discussing the bailouts.

    I confess my mind wandered. Watching a Dem debate in Florida and wondering not which one of them will win Florida, but whether Rubio can beat Trump in the other aisle.
     
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    A good democratic debate? Are you being sarcastic?
     
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    Univision. Literally meaning one point of view.
     
  11. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    Well the moderators actually had some different views in that debate. It was the candidates had to make an effort to sound different from each other on some of their platforms. They're both trying not to give the GOP too many soundbites for the fall. But since they're getting edgier with each other, they should quit having debates while lthey're ahead. DWSchultz is a pain in the neck but she's not stupid about the risk of too many debates when the party is engaged in a primary and the incumbent president is of that party.
     
  12. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    Hillary and Bernie! I went to Donald's rally a couple of weeks ago. It's kinda cool to have the opportunity to see all three of them.
     
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    What a **** show. I didn't hear word one about penis size, making America great again, stubby fingers or name calling nor did Bernie or Hillary dare to hawk their fake wares in a QVC style rant after the debate. I don't see how Trump can't win.
     
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    I saw all of three minutes of it, and in those three minutes I could tell this was a whole different level of moderating. Asking a follow up THREE times to get an answer to the question actually asked, shocking.
     
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    If there are two unlikely winners from this year's Presidential campaigns, I'd say it has been Univision and (gasp!) Fox News.

    Univision in general, and anchor Jorge Ramos in particular, have done an outstanding job of putting tough questions to the candidates; staying away from meaningless "gotcha" garbage. And raising awareness of some of the very real issues faced by much of their viewership. Ramos especially has done so in a manner that is dignified, professional, courageous, and insistent - refusing to be shut up by the fascists and goons surrounding the Trump carnival show.

    Fox News, which for much of the past decade and a half has been a de facto propaganda outlet for the Republican Party is at long last showing signs of journalistic integrity. (Small signs, to be sure.)

    Not just Megyn Kelly's standing up to Trump's outrageous slime - but also their decision to host Bernie Sanders town hall discussion. Brett Baier seems determined to give Democrats a fair hearing. And I think going forward, Democratic politicians at every level should think twice before reflexively refusing to appear on Fox. Fox has a large audience, and those people should at least have the opportunity to see what a decent, responsible politician looks like.
     
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    Related to Ramos, he did an interview with NPR yesterday about his new book and his views as a journalist. I don't necessarily agree with his perspective on journalism or reporting, but it's worth a listen if you are interested in him or Univision.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/03/09/46975...ournalists-must-take-a-stand-jorge-ramos-says
     
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    Because he has throughout his life supported far left wing ideology that borders on communism. He has always wanted to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America. It's hard for him to bash what he has looked up to his adult life.
     
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    I don't watch Fox but from what I know and have heard, Bret is one of the more fair people from Fox.
     
  19. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    I just met Hillary Clinton (in person) and nearly freaked out! She is really short and looks VERY Presidential. She is intimidating for a woman. I told her about how a few of y'all dislike her. Lol.

    I get to met Bernie (in person) in a few hours. I can't wait to talk to him face to face.
     

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