Dem party in Civil War!

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  1. 1458279 Suspended

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    Some Sanders supporters say it’s ‘Bernie or Bust’ and they will never vote for Hillary Clinton

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/some-sanders-supporters-say-its-bernie-or-bust-155205844.html

    Sanders: Superdelegates may now be eyeing switch from Clinton

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...-sanders-superdelegates-may-jump-from-clinton

    "Hillary Clinton's repeated stumbles at this stage of the race are another reminder of her deeply flawed candidacy. Winning only one out of six primaries and caucuses this week is an embarrassing performance for the Democrat front-runner,"

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...wins-embarrassing-performance/article/2586923


    Does Bernie have a chance? He's still getting the cash flow, he has no reason to leave the race. Are the remaining states being kept out of the race?

    More importantly, do the Dems have the guts to take a stand? Are Bernie the last hold out for real change in America, given that the GOP has already pretty much made their stand known?

     
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    Wishful thinking but the reality is the Democratic party is much more united than the GOP. Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination, the vast majority of Democrats will support the nominee.
     
  3. thewap macrumors demi-god

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    I think the jig is up. The only way to really beat the system is to have a people's party opposing both establishment's right and left parties.

    Then again the republicans are directly challenging the establishment on the right, will the left challenge the establishment on the left?
     
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    They are, that's why Sanders has done so well.
     
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    We should change the role of politicians so that their only responsibility is drafting bills. Then the American people can vote directly on each bill via the internet. :D
     
  6. thewap macrumors demi-god

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    Problem is the internet is the least reliable form of voting, easily subject to rigging and fraud.
     
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    There are plenty of controls we could put in place to make voting on the internet more secure than voting in person.
     
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    We're seeing that people are fed up of the establishment "Left" (I really dislike the term) in several countries, in different states of completion: Corbyn has already won the Labour in the UK, Podemos in Spain only slightly behind the PSOE (in this case they didn't even bother climbing the ladder of the establishment party, they created a new one), and now Sanders trying to bring some sanity to the Dems. On the other hand, some countries like France are veering to the far-right.
     
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    Like the first internet vote system they put in place in Utah? MSM news did not mention that the company who runs it is an affiliate board member of George Soros and co..
     
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    I think people have better things to do.
     
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    Many countries seem to be veering more right, look at slovenia..they are erecting a razor wire wall against immigrants.
     
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    Corbyn is an idiot and a total failure of a leader.
     
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    Far right and centre right parties.

    FTFY
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    Tory lover?
     
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    Where is the civil war, no different then in 2008 . And if its trump/cruz most of those saying they wont vote will stil vote anyway to not be stuck with either of those 2 idiots.
     
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    Not really... And neither is @zin.

    Corbyn is a moron. He couldn't even win at prime ministers questions when IDS had resigned. That's pathetic.

    And he couldn't even manage to turn up for the rugby World Cup - blaming someone's housing dispute, his policy on Trident is utterly moronic and so on and so forth.
     
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    Who couldn't have predicted that the very 1st response would be a comparison between the two parties with heavy slant that the Dems are better. Even though there was zero mention as to the falling in line being the root of the problem.

    Looks like "united" would be the same as "fall in line and shut up because we're better than the other party". This is clearly why the establishment keeps winning.

    Sadly if the Dems had the backbone of the Right, we'd actually be united against the Washington establishment that is ruining the nation.

    This is exactly why Washington keeps winning.
     
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    That's because the MSM is owned by the Left. They are puppets.
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    Putting up a razor wire at this point might only serve to keep the good people from leaving when the stuff hits the fan :D
     
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    By definition, it's not.
     
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    What is not? The ownership of the MSM by the Left? The Left clearly owns the media. Look at most of the main stream media, they're almost all Lefties.

    The Right has most of the talk radio and some others, but it's mostly the Left.
     
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    You seems to have some serious issues dealing with reality. First, you assert that the Democratic party is in a civil war. If that were the case, the Democrats would not unite behind either candidate. I tell you what, why don't you hold your breath and see if your delusions of civil war become a reality. Second, if you have a problem with the Washington establishment, don't blame Democrats. The Republicans control both the House and the Senate and I can tell you that is wasn't any Democrats who voted those politicians into office. You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself, why do people like you keep electing these clowns. Sure, Republicans are angry alright but they should be angry with themselves for continuously allowing themselves to be duped by these con artists. But the saddest part is that Republicans have yet to hit rock bottom, that will come when they realize they've been conned by any even bigger con artist, Donald Trump. Some people need to learn the hard way.
     
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    Few facts left out:
    Dems held a SUPER majority. They OWNED Washington.
    Then, after having a sample of the Dem super majority, the nation caused the GOP to have the most control since 1928.

    It's an issue of what the GOP did with their control that's at issue. So we got rid of #1 and #2. Still didn't get the job done, now we're willing to get rid of even more until we get what we want.

    The reality you don't see is that it's the Dems and Rinos that are the problem. The difference is that the Dems are running one of the biggest Washington insiders ever. We running people that Washington deeply fears because they can't be bought.

    Part of the Left sees the problem and want's Bernie, but the real question is do they have enough backbone to actually stand up.
     
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    The reality that you don't see is that GOP obstructionism is the problem. America needs for the GOP to completely implode and then perhaps the Democrats will be able to tackle some of the corruption in Washington.
     

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