Democratic senator: Obama still has no strategy for Syria

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    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/democratic-senator-obama-still-has-no-strategy-232123279.html
    community organizers are pretty worthless .
     
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    He's been watching too much Fox News. /s
     
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    he can multi task into war mongering community organizer :D oh, and golfer.
     
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    Well, duh! After he is done war mongering, I'm sure there will be plenty of communities that need organizing.
     
  6. Praxis91 macrumors regular

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    I have a great foreign policy strategy. Stop meddling.
     
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    I just agreed with you on something. Excuse me while I go reevaluate everything I've ever believed in.....
     
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    Isn't that what Obama is doing?
     
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    This is one of the huge things that tea-party anti-establishment conservatives and liberals / hippies agree on. I think together, those two groups make up a pretty good majority of the country. With that in mind, why do we keep electing these crazy "pro-defense" a/k/a warmongering politicians?
     
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    sending ground troops and arming rebels is the opposite of meddling.
     
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    sadly, that is all that is running. with the exception of Rand Paul even Bernie thinks we should keep troops abroad.
     
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    If he issued an EO to bring all our troops home, that would be not meddling. Reducing troops in Iraq and then sending more to Afghanistan (after promising withdraw) is meddling.

    FWIW, I'm 3rd party.
     
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    Because there are no other options on either side of the political spectrum. Except maybe Bernie, who I will be voting for in the Democratic primary. But I would say that "pro-defense" politicians are the majority in politics.
     
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    Bernie ceased to be an option for me.
     
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    Guess you're fresh out of options then.
     
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    pretty much , I don't see Rand getting anywhere.

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    Simply "having a strategy" is no guarantee of success.

    The US had several strategies in place during the Vietnam War, and each one of them ("dominos"; "search and destroy"; "body counts"; etc.) simply made the situation worse. We had strategies in place to "whip inflation" and we declared a "war on drugs" - neither of which worked out quite the way they were planned to.

    Its very easy for politicians to make statements like Senator Kaine. A little more difficult for them to articulate exactly what would be preferable to what we are doing right now. It also bears considering that, if we actually did come up with a surefire plan for defeating the spread of ISIL; replacing the Assad regime with a popularly elected and supported government in Syria; and allowing the Iraqi government to build robust institutional rule of law - then it may not necessarily be a good idea to tell the world exactly what that plan is.
     
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    Muslim brotherhood was "elected" in Libya, how well did that work out?
     
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    He does have a strategy but it includes more than just this little nuisance of Syria.

    1) Minimal engagement while maximizing the twisting of past statements to reflect today's actions and situations.

    2) Enforce the the idea that whatever extra "advisors" he has to send over that perform combat related activities are not considered boots on ground, they are direct support "advisors" who participate in active support of the local nationals.

    3) Keep the airstrikes and drone strikes moderate, for high value targets, so Josh Earnest can say the president is kicking butt, while nothing worthwhile is actually happening.

    4) Attend fund raisers to make money for the DNC to get get Hillary elected.

    5) Leave office

    6) Give speeches for a million an appearance.
     

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