Democrats Again Sound Alarms for Hillary Clinton

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/analysis-...y-clinton-093200832--abc-news-topstories.html
    Hope Bernie wins, I don't want to see Hillary up there.
     
  2. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Who the hell cares what West Virginia thinks? They aren't exactly representative of the population...

    WV is 93% white and 39% evangelical.


    As much as I hate to say it, Hillary is gonna pick Bernie as VP and they are gonna mop the floor with Trump's toupee... or whatever the hell that is on his head.
     
  3. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    I hope not, if Bernie capitulates to a non-role as VP instead of returning to the Senate as the most powerful senator of this generation it will completely turn off this generation to politics entirely.

    I'd much rather see him concede AT the convention (if he doesn't take it) and continue pressing the movement forward from the Senate and keeping Clinton accountable from his very visible perch in the Senate. Don't forget, he's about to be on the "pursestrings" committee in the Senate, that's huge.
     
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    I agree completely, but I think the Hillary camp is going to look at all the Sanders supporters, especially the young ones, and think that the best way she can try to secure their votes against Trump is to put Bernie on the ticket.
     
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    They are now. One more segment of the country that has realized their lives mean nothing to the elitists that make up the Democratic party leadership.
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    What a ticket! The Snoozer and The Loser.
     
  7. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    Alarms are going off because he cut her lead by a whopping 2 delegates? Only 2? :eek:

    How many states still left to pick delegates? 11? Clinton currently leads the elected delegate count by 276 delegates? And he cut her lead by 2? Oh yeah baby :D
     
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    It's her inability to close the deal that has Democrats worried. By every measure, she's doing worse than in 2008, and now she's facing the distraction of her email server.

    The woman can't even manage to beat an old Socialist, the least liked political tag in this country.
     
  9. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    Cant beat him? She's beating him in both popular votes and elected delegates.
     
  10. shinji macrumors 65816

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    The alarm bells aren't for the Democratic nomination. The article's about the potential danger she faces in the general election with blue collar white voters.
     
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    She's winning in delegate count, but it's a Pyrrhic victory that highlights how weak she is as a candidate.
     
  12. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Lol. When was the last time WV voted blue in a Presidential election?

    WV and their 5 electoral college votes always go red.
     
  13. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    while I like your post I got a feeling Bernie would simply be continually blocked by the DNC if he returns as a senator. and I sure as hell hope he does not taint his name by attaching it to Hillary.
     
  14. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    If they do so, they will get a fraction of what they're expecting. The thing about independents (whom may have registered simply for the primaries as Dems) is they don't respond to calls to fall in line (because they never agreed with the line in the first place).

    The millennials are shockingly aware of pandering, and it turns them off completely.
     
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    Right. Because West Virginia is full of core Democrats. :rolleyes:
     
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    it's going to be an election pitting one very unpopular candidate against another very unpopular candidate.......alarm bells should be going off all around
     
  17. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Not quite. In the last 14 Presidential elections, West Virginia went to the Democrats in 8 of them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_West_Virginia

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  18. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    And in the last four elections, West Virginia went to the Democrats in zero of them. Yes, they voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, but Hillary Clinton's not a Clintonite.

     
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    Same, same same. Even for Warren. If Sanders and Warren cater to Clinton's need to be more progressive by running with her, for essentially no reason other than to win over Trump, it would be a big let down. Both are needed in the Senate to fight for their ideas and policies.
     
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    Exactly my thinking. Both together can keep a movement going, actually getting people to show up for rallies on key issues.

     
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    Warren? I don't see it. She's a lightweight on all but banking and consumer related issues.
    Brown - Makes sense. Win Ohio and she's President. He's way more liberal than her.
    Franken - Who wouldn't love to see the old Al as a Trump attack dog? Never happen.
    Romney? I chuckled.
     
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    Why hate to say it? When they were both active members of Congress, they voted identically 93% of the time. It is not unreasonable or ill-conceived to believe that either will be a fair fit for the job, and - yes - it is very possible he would be a viable VP choice. If he somehow ends up being nominated, she becoming VP would be just as welcomed. Warren, plenty of times, has shown active and assertive disinterest. No passivity, no passive aggression, etc. Just assertion - Warren is not interested. And agree or disagree with her, especially if disagreement is given with a fair amount of cogent detail, at least she has to guts to stick up for the working class and provide a certain level of detail, more than average politicians.

    And, yes, IMHO, the "Bernie or Bust" people and "Hillary or Nobody" people both end up losing credibility. To they point they lose every right to be heard if they are going to be so petulant. Yes, a candidate's job is to win voters. It's also a voter's responsibility to look into facts and detail and weigh all things perceived as pros and cons. There's more going on than just a polished speech or prepared appearance, for which all of the shallowness started in Election 1960 when JFK won over voters because he looked more pretty than Nixon had. Look it up.
     
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    I will laugh my arse off if she chokes and loses a huge state like California. That would be epic.
     
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    Really, was she doing better in pledged delegates in '08? Or super delegates? Or states won? Or total votes?

    I hope she doesn't pick him as VP. I like him, but both of them are too old to be president, since there isn't a younger choice they need to counter that with someone younger as VP who can take over if they don't make it through the full term. If Clinton goes with someone much over 60 I'll be voting third party since we need younger people in power.
     
  25. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Nah. The Hillary campaign isn't stupid. Bernie needs 2/3 of every delegate from every state last I checked.

    Politics are a spread now. Bernie is basically facing Hilary plus 25%. He lost yesterday. This is just trying to drum up interest in dead primaries. Hillary might just back into the presidency, since Trump is an actual monster.
     

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