"Democrats' attack ad sets new low for midterm mud"

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  1. MattSepeta macrumors 65816

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    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/10/democrats_hit_new_low_with_tho.html


    "Check out this new ad from the Democratic National Committee. I am sure we are nowhere near touching bottom on the level to which these attack ads will sink by Nov.2, but this is a new low so far into the midterm battle.

    Here is what's so appalling to me: The ad makes the totally unsubstantiated charge that the Chamber of Commerce is taking money from foreign interests and using it to "steal our democracy." And worse, President Obama is out on the campaign trail, according to the New York Times, creating an echo chamber by making the same reckless claims just as the ad hits the airwaves. And when CBS newsman Bob Schieffer Sunday asks David Axelrod if there is any proof for the claim, the senior Obama aide says they don't need proof -- it's up to the Chamber of Commerce to prove it isn't true.

    The Democratic National Commitee is using the same sort of tactic and logic that Sen. Joe McCarthy used in the 1950s: Level a headline-grabbing and unsubstantiated charge, like the State Department is filled with communists, and then say it is up to the State Department and the employees so charged to prove it is not true.

    So much for hope and change; this is the politics of fear, slander and divisiveness on the eve of an election that looks as if it could deliver a damning verdict on the first two years of the Obama administration.

    And check out the woman being mugged in the parking garage. By the visual logic of this ad, Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie are the muggers."


    Interesting technique.... Given that a foreign oil company responsible for the gulf leak was a large contributor to the right-midterm-prospects, I am not surprised.

    Wait a minute.....
     
  2. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Got any more info on this other than from an editorial column? Also, a transcript? I can't watch videos at work.
     
  3. MattSepeta thread starter macrumors 65816

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    No transcript that I can find but I will hammer one out really quick, it may be rough-

    "Karl rove, ed gillespie, they are bush cronies! The Us Chamber of Commerce- They are SHILLS for big business, and they are stealing our democracy! Spending millions from SECRET DONORS to elect republicans to do ther bidding in congress. It appears they have even taken FOREIGN MONEY to influence our elections! Its incredible, republicans benefitting from SECRET FOREIGN MONEY.... TELL THE BUSH CROWD AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE- STOP STEALING OUR DEMOCRACY."

    It is even more ridiculous than it reads, you really need to see the visuals they choose, such as two guys mugging a woman in a dark parking ramp, and stacks of chinese dollars piling up, and all of the words I bolded were written on the screen in a HUGE font. The narrator also sounded like one of the action movie voice over narrator preview guys.

    Pretty wild, especially considering Obama's campaign had millions of likely foreign dollars as well as receiving more from BP than any other candidate.

    When pressed, David Axelrod said something to the effect of "Its up to them to prove they are not accepting foreign contributions"....

    :confused::confused::confused:
     
  4. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I think we all know that there have been foreign contributions happening for a long time. I think we also know that our government is quite beholden to the business community. The ad is wacky though.
     
  5. MattSepeta thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thats pretty much my point... This ad provides no new information, is anti-substantive, and only seeks to attack and create unwarranted animosity. Watch it when you get home, its worse than you are imagining. Especially the visuals of a young woman being violently robbed by two men :rolleyes:
     
  6. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Something tells me it's hardly a new low in political ads though.
     
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    Both parties do the same thing. Nothing new.

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  8. MattSepeta thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Of this, I am aware.


    The people need to somehow let these two idiotic parties know that we do not want to see ads like this.

    We want to see ads that clearly state facts.

    We want to see ads that clearly state voting records.

    We want to see ads that clearly state quotes, published words, etc of themselves or their opposing candidates taken in context.

    Etc.
     
  9. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    All it shows see we do not vote for the best candidate and have not for a long time.
    We vote for who will screw us over less but at the end of the day you are still getting screwed.
     
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    That might be what you want but that's not what wins votes. Objective facts and advertising are not regular bedfellows. Xenophobic nonsense like this sells.
     
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Matt, while I sympathize with your desires, this hasn't been a reality since... ummm... ever.
     
  12. freeny macrumors 68020

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    What is the alternative... the Tea Party? No thanks
     
  13. MattSepeta thread starter macrumors 65816

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    What, no...

    The alternative is an ad with integrity and focused on the candidate paying for it, rather than focused on attacking the "bad guys".
     
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    I agree. Unfortunately there aren't many folks in Washington with "integrity" during elections.

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    It will never happen
     
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    I can't believe anyone would defend the Chamber of taking in vast amounts of money from undisclosed sources and spending all the money they want on ads without limits.
     
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    Apparently, Opie agrees with you. They way our constitution and courts work, however, it would take an actual amendment to get campaigns under control. Seems like it would make more sense to address the real flaws in the system if we could reach a serious level of reform like that.
     
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    No way is that lower than the "American Taliban" ad.
     
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    I really don't understand why they're going with this foreign angle?

    Just simply tell the American people how companies are working against them via the Chamber.
     
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    Just when you think limbo is over, eh?

    How LOW can you go?
     
  21. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    While that ad does seem a bit off kilter I think it's pretty tame w/regards to mudslinging.


    Lethal
     
  22. KítscheñÇinqµe macrumors regular

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    how to win the diapersex party vote

    "i had knotty knotty cexx with 3 lobbyists 23.5 times each in 2008, while my worthy opponent had mercy cexx with 2 lobbyists 33 times each in 2009. nyahhhh, i got luckier earlier. vote for me.
    (I am bob spoogepants, and i approve of this advertising. not including doc and prep fees, transfer tax, boilerplate skim, and other stuff i can't say cuz i'm running out of breath, ya think I'm a pearl diver or what?)"
    but historically, many voters prefer talkradio style slander ;-)
    fewer ads would be best, since they are a waste of resources. vote for the candidate with the fewest ads. kermit the frog? oh no. he gets free airtime. nevermind ;-)
     
  23. KítscheñÇinqµe macrumors regular

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    the japs are coming! oops, it's not 1985 anymore.

    the folks in dc are there because somebody (probably gayjewishchineseislamofeminazisocialistflouridehuggers) wants them there.
     
  24. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    What part is untrue? The chorus of whining suggests that the Democratic Party have struck a nerve.




    Of course, if they want to clear the air, why don't they just open their books to set the record straight?

    You can see some detailed spends here.


    In reply, the Chamber states:

    Two things: One, let's see these strict financial controls, and secondly: cash is fungible.
     
  25. MyDesktopBroke macrumors 6502

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    Nothing can be worse than Bush/Obama = Hitler. At least the Taliban reference, while somewhat crass, had an amount of comparability. That is, both the Taliban and (few) extremely far right Republicans advocate their respective religious texts as grounds for political policy to be enforced on a diverse public. The message is that (which ever candidate) is willing to propose and support policy based on his personal religious beliefs. Unfortunately, sensationalism and grandstanding has political advantage over facts and reasonable debates.
     

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