detroit vs stlouis or bad vs bad

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  1. stlouis macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
    You know you're a Detroiter when...
    You put a lawn chair in the street to protect your parking spot.
    You look forward to going over the I-75 industrial brigde and seeing the downtown city lights.
    You think sunlight reflection off broken glass is pretty.
    Someone makes nasty crack about Detroit and you want to slug them.
    You bleed a little everytime you hear someone say something negative about Detroit.
    You meet your lawyer at Lafayette Coney Island.
    Your idea of down South is Toledo.
    It is 90 percent chance that you're an Immigrant or African-American.
    You're jelous of Chicago.
    You don't live in Detroit but insted in suburbs but you're there seven days a week.
    The signs say "construction," the traffic is down to one lane and there are no workers in sight.
    You can pronounce and spell : Gratiot," "Cadieux," "Dequindre" and "Lahser."
    Your old car seats have become living room furniture.
    If it's less than 10 blocks away, you drive anyway.
    You think burned-out buildings are beautiful.
    You ask for pop, not soda.
    You resent people who are scared to cross Eight Mile (either way).
    You have a position on the east side/west side debate.
    People ask if it's safe to visit you.
    Jokes about Detroit aren't funny anymore.
    The broken windows stop amazing you.
    The bad smell and the dead bodies in the street don't bother you anymore.
    You run red lights in front of cops.
    You own a Navigator and still live with Mom.
    You live in a gang territory and you still don't know.
    The "Ghetto" is your home and "Gangs" are your family.
    You have a taste for coney dogs.
    You can not drive around city without protection.
    You can dodge potholes without dropping the cell phone.
    You get excited about every new store or business.
    You can't get to sleep without the sound of sirens.
    You hate the city, but you'll kick the ass of anyone who disses it.
    You just can't move away.
    You love Vernor's and Better Made Chips
    You refer to the city as "the D" or " Murder Capital."
    You use your hand to show people where you live.
    You swim at Belle Isle beach.
    You call McNichols "6 Mile."
    It seem fair enough to see somebody strapped with a gun.
    You know the given names of all the expressways.
    You know Non-Detroiters fear you.
    People get scared when you say you're from here.
    You have a sharp-ass SUV and a ****ed-up house.
    You go on a Florida vacation and still return home.
    You hate Detroit and in the same time you're proud.
    You tell people you're from Detroit when you live in the suburbs.
    A six-street intersection with a Michigan turn seems logical.
    You think Devil's Night is celebrated anywhere.
  2. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
    Murder capital?

    Nation's Most-Dangerous Cities Ranked
    Rankings Based On FBI Crime-Figures Analysis

    POSTED: 12:25 p.m. EST December 6, 2002

    St. Louis has a new title it can probably do without. It's been named America's most-dangerous city by a Kansas research and publishing company.

    Detroit is considered the second-most-dangerous city, followed by Atlanta, Gary-IN, Baltimore, Flint-MI and Compton-CA.

    It's the ninth year the rankings have been conducted. Detroit had been considered the most-dangerous city for the past three years.

    "Amherst-NY is stuck to the top of our rankings," said Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno Press. "But, it is no wonder that the city does so well. With no murders and some of the lowest crime rates in the nation, Amherst easily beat out the other 341 cities in this year's ranking."

    Joining Amherst at the top of the Safest City rankings were Brick Township, N.J., Newton, Mass., Thousand Oaks, Calif., and Sunnyvale, Calif.

    The rankings are based on an analysis of FBI crime figures. Included in the analysis are six basic crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. All cities of 75,000 or more populations that reported crime data to the FBI for the six crime categories were included in the rankings.

    Copyright 2002 by All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed

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  3. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Haven't been to either Detroit or St. Louis.

    I wonder if they had included just the South East of DC where that would have placed on the listing...;)

  4. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis

    The night before Halloween has a name of it's own and a Etradition that's none too friendly. Instead of kids and candy, Devil's night has an entirely different persona, one characterized by vandalism. Devil's Night is especially deadly on the streets of Detroit. On the night of Oct. 30, the citizens are on patrol and the children are kept at home. Residents of Detroit have something more than vandalism to worry about; they are fighting fire. In 1994 Detroit fire officials logged 182 Devil's Night fires - the highest number since 1990, according to an article published in the Detroit News. In 1996 Devil's Night made history, and it wasn't for the destruction that the night annually incurs. Representatives of six southwest Detroit gangs agreed to a three-day Halloween season truce and pledged to help stop Devil's Night arsonists," according to another article published in The Detroit News.Renee Lynch, the 68-year-old president of the Detroit Area Residents East, patrolled the streets of her eastside gang neighborhood, with vehicles sporting flashing yellow lights and CB radios, along with the other members of the group. Montagner was flanked by young men whom he identified as gang members as he outlined terms of the truce: Gang members will not engage in illegal acts, will not commit arson or vandalism and will not engage in any violence," according to the article.
  5. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis

    On Detroit's east side, in neighborhoods where vacant lots and burned-out shells of former homes dominate the landscape, a radical vision is emerging. It is a futuristic view of urban redevelopment that draws heavily upon the past. Detroit, perhaps more than any other major city in America, has an abundance of vacant land and abandoned property.As odd as it seems, the history of Bloody Run Creek and the fallout from Detroit's crack epidemic would eventually merge.In 1987, a year after 46 children under 16 in the city were gunned down and another 345 were wounded from the crossfire of battling drug gangs, some Detroit residents began taking to the streets, marching on drug houses with bullhorns blaring.
  6. rhpenguin macrumors 6502a


    Jun 10, 2003
    London, Ontario
    Living near Detroit for the majority of my life, i find this really funny :) I grew up in Windsor, Ontario and the contrast between the two cities is unbelievable. Don't get me wrong, Windsor is still quite the ****hole, but definatly better than detroit. I dont really know where im going with this post, but detroit is very, very dirty. LOL
  7. Stelliform macrumors 68000


    Oct 21, 2002
    Boy, the Detroit and St Louis Department of Tourism isn't going to be happy with you guys. ;) :D

    I was toying with the idea of going to St Louis to see the Arch, but now I think I won't bother....
  8. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
  9. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
    Detroit most dangerous US city for pedestrians

    Detroit tops U.S. big cities in rate of pedestrian deaths

    April 22, 2003


    City and state officials are baffled as to why Detroit rates as the most dangerous for pedestrians among large U.S. cities in a federal government study to be released today.

    "Obviously, these are tragic numbers, ones that all traffic safety and law enforcement officials need to act on to promote safety in the future," said Liz Boyd, a spokeswoman for Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

    Boyd, however, said she couldn't explain Detroit's dismal death rate among walkers.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study looked at pedestrian fatality rankings for all U.S. cities with a population of 100,000 or more, based on yearly averages from 1998 to 2000. In a portion of the study analyzing cities with populations greater than 500,000, Detroit had the highest fatality rate with 5.05 deaths per 100,000 population, two times higher than New York City.

    Highway safety officials said they didn't have specific information about why Detroit had a higher rate than other large cities, but experts say a lack of sidewalks and crosswalks, as well as urban sprawl, are making Detroit roads among the most dangerous in the nation for walkers.

    The high rate may partly result from drivers' attitudes toward pedestrians, said Kelly Thayer, transportation project manager for the Michigan Land Use Institute, based in Traverse City. "There are some states where pedestrians come first, and Michigan isn't one of them," Thayer said.

    Not only are there a lack of sidewalks and crosswalks in the state, but the roads, in general, are not pedestrian-friendly, Thayer says. For instance, many busy thoroughfares don't have have a island in the middle where people crossing the road can wait while traffic clears, and that puts many pedestrians at risk.

    "We have a lot of problems with accidents. We have a lot of unlicensed drivers. We have a lot of fatal car accidents, and a lot of them involve pedestrians," said Detroit Deputy Chief Harold Cureton, who directed the traffic enforcement unit until a recent reorganization. "It's probably something we should pay more attention to."

    Michigan ranked No. 19 in terms of pedestrian fatality rates for 2001.

    Highway safety officials said various factors are responsible for pedestrian fatalities, including how roads are designed, how many walkways a city has and traffic enforcement.

    Nearly one in five pedestrians killed on America's roadways is the victim of a hit-and-run crash, the study said.

    More than a fifth of all children ages 5 to 9 killed in traffic crashes were pedestrians. The age group with the highest rate of pedestrian fatalities is those 70 and over.

    Contact JOCELYN PARKER at 313-222-5391.
  10. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
    St. Louis overtakes Detroit as most-dangerous city in ranking
    Associated Press

    ST. LOUIS - St. Louis has become the nation's most-dangerous city, snapping Detroit's three-year run with that inauspicious label, according to a Kansas company's yearly ranking.

    St. Louis' marketers and criminologists quickly scoffed, dismissing the findings as another meaningless bid to satisfy America's craving for rankings of everything from college sports teams to the most-beautiful people alive.

    The methodology for determining America’s Safest City and Metro Area involves a multi-step process. First, 2001 city and metro area crime rates per 100,000 population (the most recent comparable final numbers available, released by the FBI in October 2002) for six basic crime categories — murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft — were plugged into a formula that measured how a particular city or metro area compared to the national average for a given crime category
  11. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis
    Detroit cops are deadliest in U.S.," Detroit Free Press

    Detroit cops are deadliest in U.S.," Detroit Free Press

    Using FBI statistics, the Detroit Free Press made the following conclusions on fatal shootings by police, ranking Houston second for such homicides.

    Number Of Killings per 100,000



    Los Angeles

    New York
  12. stlouis thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2003
    st louis

    It seems detroit more bad but still st louis badder

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