Dictator Relationships

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Huntn, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. Huntn macrumors G5

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    I can see a good discussion here, maybe it has all ready happened. ;)

    If a country's ideals promote freedom/liberty, should that country be dealing with dictators? The U.S. has a long history of this. Take a look at the U.S. and Saudi Arabia among others. The fact of the matter is that many locations in this world are populated with dictatorships. While a democracy would prefer to deal with other democracies, if you want to influence events in other parts of the world, you will have to pick and choose your dictators. The point a democracy pushes a dictatorship towards democracy depends on a countries long and short term goals. This is a fact of life.

    But in this process does it mean you belittle your own standard of democracy and liberty? I tend to say 'yes', but it's not a black and white situation.
     
  2. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    The U.S. believes in Situational Democracy.

    If they have no axe to grind with a particular country, they are for it.

    If they have "interests" in a country's natural resources, they are against it.
     
  3. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    Not necessarily if they can bend the country to their will. We'll worry about individual freedoms later...
     
  4. skunk macrumors G4

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    Dealing with a dictator is not the same as maintaining a dictator in power.
     
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    An important distinction in this discussion.
     
  6. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Is a nation's first duty the management of its own affairs, or political evangelism?

    It is impossible to avoid "dealing" with nations that operate under systems of government we might find oppressive or tyrannical. International relations on some level are not equivalent to support or endorsement.
     
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    Does this distinction involve the gag factor, for I am at a loss to understand the politics of dealing with someone of this ilk, unless you put him there?
     
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    You deal with whoever has the ability to make agreements, do business, whatever you like to call it, though preferably maintaining certain standards of consistency, good judgement and fair-mindedness. You may encourage broader contacts if you wish, but primarily you have to deal. This is the proper business of diplomacy.
     
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    Essentially, you (try to ensure that you) sup with a very long spoon when dealing with such individuals and their regimes.
     
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    This is the point. Some countries without democracy (or with 'sham' democracies) are just to important to ignore. China for instance. Imagine if USA, Canada, EU, Japan etc all decided that China was not 'free' enough and we would no longer deal with them. Not good for our economy!

    However, look at what happens when these countries change. Countries were not massively critical of Egypt because they have the enormously strategic Suez Canal. Now a revolution has occurred there have been a lot of statements about how wonderful the new found freedom is.
     

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