Did the Apple vs Samsung trial made you feel differently about Samsung?

Did it change your how you previously viewed Samsung?

  • Yes, for the worst.

    Votes: 12 30.8%
  • Yes, for the better.

    Votes: 15 38.5%
  • No

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • Total voters
    39

Dolorian

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This thread is very much on the same line as the previous thread I made but focused on Samsung instead. Did the recent trial change how you previously viewed Samsung?
 

thejadedmonkey

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This thread is very much on the same line as the previous thread I made but focused on Samsung instead. Did the recent trial change how you previously viewed Samsung?
LOL nice thread :p

While I don't think Apple should have sued Samsung, I don't think Samsung should have copied Apple either, even remotely. This reminds me of two children having a little temper tantrum. I am not amused.
 

Mousse

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I see Samsung in a better light after the trial. Why? Because, according to :apple: Samsung's offering is the same as Apple's...only with a bigger screen, better performances and lower price.

I had zero interest in the Galaxy 3 before, but now... a better iPhone (only running android instead of iOS) for a lower price. Sign me up.
 

cookiesnfooty

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I see Samsung in a better light after the trial. Why? Because, according to :apple: Samsung's offering is the same as Apple's...only with a bigger screen, better performances and lower price.

I had zero interest in the Galaxy 3 before, but now... a better iPhone (only running android instead of iOS) for a lower price. Sign me up.
I have the S3 and the Play store is not yet able to match up to the IOS store.
 

decafjava

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The same, both big corporations neither worthy of fanboyism. Still happy with my iPhone and Apple airport extreme, and like my Samsung 3d bluray player and my little backup Samsung feature phone. :cool:
 

kot

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Sep 10, 2011
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i don't like Samsung mobile gadgets for they are bland and dull. Samsung is trying hard to portray themselves as some kind of a reputable brand (which they clearly aren't) and charge accordingly.

And I don't like Samsung for their willingness to copy and hurt Apple. I enjoy Apple products, so I want them to prosper.
 

G51989

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i don't like Samsung mobile gadgets for they are bland and dull. Samsung is trying hard to portray themselves as some kind of a reputable brand (which they clearly aren't) and charge accordingly.

And I don't like Samsung for their willingness to copy and hurt Apple. I enjoy Apple products, so I want them to prosper.
How is Samsung not a reputable brand? As of right now, the Galaxy S3 is a superior phone to the iPhone, and if the rumors are true about the iPhone are true, it'll be better than the next iPhone.

And you do know a very good amount of an Apple product is made of Samsung parts right?
 

kot

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Sep 10, 2011
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How is Samsung not a reputable brand? As of right now, the Galaxy S3 is a superior phone to the iPhone, and if the rumors are true about the iPhone are true, it'll be better than the next iPhone.
I don't know about the USA, but in my country Samsung has always been known as a manufacturer of cheap plastic cell phones, vacuum cleaners and microwave ovens (which is not bad, I own a Samsung microwave myself and my TV is also from Samsung)
It will only be superior to the iPhone when it has iOS in it. You cannot compare devices by their hardware if it is the software which defines your experience (mostly). I use apps, not mhzs.
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And you do know a very good amount of an Apple product is made of Samsung parts right?
Yes, I do, so what? Does it make the iPhone crippled in any way?
 

charlieegan3

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i don't like Samsung mobile gadgets for they are bland and dull. Samsung is trying hard to portray themselves as some kind of a reputable brand (which they clearly aren't) and charge accordingly.

And I don't like Samsung for their willingness to copy and hurt Apple. I enjoy Apple products, so I want them to prosper.
Samsung are a reputable brand (apple buys from them for supplies so they can't be that bad!)
Hence they can charge accordingly
Samsung have never acted to "hurt" (can't believe you used that word) Apple, only to compete
Apple and samsung both copy each other and other companies.

do some research before coming out with stuff like that, it's just not true at all.

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The same, both big corporations neither worthy of fanboyism. Still happy with my iPhone and Apple airport extreme, and like my Samsung 3d bluray player and my little backup Samsung feature phone. :cool:
I would say that is a very healthy outlook on the situation, an outlook plenty of others here could do with adopting.

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I don't know about the USA, but in my country Samsung has always been known as a manufacturer of cheap plastic cell phones, vacuum cleaners and microwave ovens (which is not bad, I own a Samsung microwave myself and my TV is also from Samsung)
It will only be superior to the iPhone when it has iOS in it. You cannot compare devices by their hardware if it is the software which defines your experience (mostly). I use apps, not mhzs.

Yes, I do, so what? Does it make the iPhone crippled in any way?[/QUOTE]

I don't think you understand the scale of either company to comment accurately. If you do some research you will find that samsung make very HQ phones and devices - easily on par with apple. It's only a preference thing.
 

kot

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Samsung are a reputable brand (apple buys from them for supplies so they can't be that bad!)
They don't buy them from their mobile division. Samsung Group is a conglomerate of different companies, not a single company.

Hence they can charge accordingly
For this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkECpsDa2-s
and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylSbfDs24jM&feature=relmfu
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Samsung have never acted to "hurt" (can't believe you used that word) Apple, only to compete
Infringing on someone elses' IP is not competition. Competition is innovation.
 

ixodes

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Although I already felt Samsung was being bullied by Apple, I now feel even better about Samsung.

Too bad Apple got paranoid & let their fear show. They caved in to the pressure needlessly.

But that's what happens when you lose confidence. It was Apples game to lose. They won on the backs of overpaid lawyers, biased USA court, being a US corporation, and a heavily Pro-Apple American Jury with no clue how to read & review the massive amount of data.

Eager to return home, the jurors shirked their responsibility, skimmed through the evidence at warp speed, all so that they could hurry and go home.

American injustice, Western style.
 

charlieegan3

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Infringing on someone elses' IP is not competition. Competition is innovation.
true, but in this case it is working both ways.

samsungs top smartphones are every bit as good as apple's, you can't deny that. It's just a preference thing, just what you prefer.

Take a look at the new galaxy note 2 video from samsung and tell me they aren't innovating.
 

kot

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Sep 10, 2011
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samsungs top smartphones are every bit as good as apple's, you can't deny that. It's just a preference thing, just what you prefer.
With a case made of plastic? With Android for an OS? I'm not sure. If only they had their own OS and a metal case.

Take a look at the new galaxy note 2 video from samsung and tell me they aren't innovating.
I'm sorry, what do you mean by that? What kind of innovation are you talking about? 5.8" screen? a stylus?
 

charlieegan3

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With a case made of plastic? With Android for an OS? I'm not sure. If only they had their own OS and a metal case.


I'm sorry, what do you mean by that? What kind of innovation are you talking about? 5.8" screen? a stylus?
Samsung effectively does have their own OS, their android front is very impressive, do the research again.

The iPhone is glass. Plastic is lighter. It has a better quailty screen than the iPhone 4s.

Look at all the difference OS features, best shot, screen recording etc etc, video overlay, etc etc.
 

kot

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Sep 10, 2011
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Samsung effectively does have their own OS, their android front is very impressive, do the research again.
Are you serious?

The iPhone is glass. Plastic is lighter. It has a better quailty screen than the iPhone 4s.
And cheaper too (and it does feel cheap and squeaky). Screen quality is debatable. Pentile is hardly a superior alternative to IPS.

Look at all the difference OS features, best shot, screen recording etc etc, video overlay, etc etc.
Well, we'll compare the S3 to the iPhone 5 and then see who's better hardware-wise. Remember there's a gap of a year between 4S and S3
iOS is much more superior to Android and offers more quality apps, you aren't going to deny that.
 

Dolorian

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iOS is much more superior to Android...
In what way is iOS "much more superior" to Android? I am talking purely about the OS here, not about all the apps available in the App Store.
 

kot

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In what way is iOS "much more superior" to Android? I am talking purely about the OS here, not about all the apps available in the App Store.
iOS is beautifully designed internally and is based on OS X and its core technologies. Android is in turn a Java abomination designed for classical blackberry-style smartphones with buttons, very laggy and a complete resource hog. The whole history of Android development is full of constant patching and working around bad design decisions with all sorts of crutches. The whole improvement of responsivness and computing speed of Android is a weird mix of turbo boost and adulterants (JIT and the like). Generally it is a terrible mess which can only be fixed by rewriting it from scratch to a clean native code base (or at least C#, where they managed to avoid Java's flaws). Same with GUI, all these triple buffering, kernel acceleration when touch is detected etc are really just lame crutches. iOS, starting from the very first version, has full hardware acceleration and handles process priorities in the right way.

The system in which allowed the IP to exist is flawed. More progressive counties have dropped or started to consider dropping software patents.
It's not true. Without IP protection, there will be no innovation. Did you know that the US having this "terrible flawed patent system" is a country where most innovations in the world are born?
 

adildacoolset

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Although I already felt Samsung was being bullied by Apple, I now feel even better about Samsung.

Too bad Apple got paranoid & let their fear show. They caved in to the pressure needlessly.

But that's what happens when you lose confidence. It was Apples game to lose. They won on the backs of overpaid lawyers, biased USA court, being a US corporation, and a heavily Pro-Apple American Jury with no clue how to read & review the massive amount of data.

Eager to return home, the jurors shirked their responsibility, skimmed through the evidence at warp speed, all so that they could hurry and go home.

American injustice, Western style.

A known internet troll on an internet forum, claims that a jury with experience with patents and engineering, is biased. Just because he himself doesn't like apple products and calls people "sheep" when they do.

I'll tell you this: In the iPhone introductory keynote, steve jobs said that they heavily patented the iPhone. He also publicly stated that he has 200-300 patents AND intends to protect them. Still not enough? On top of that, google also warned samsung to change their UI.

I'm sorry, but if they were warned this much, why did they still go ahead? I read that the jury made the decision on those grounds, so they decided the infringing was willful. So this is the price they pay. They were warned, multiple times, and they didn't do anything. Google wasn't sued by Apple, and their interface is better than ios. Same for windows mobile.

Would I stop buying apple products because they showed fear to samsung? No. It's actually more of a reason because they'll be forced to improve.
 

ucantgetridofme

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iOS is beautifully designed internally and is based on OS X and its core technologies. Android is in turn a Java abomination designed for classical blackberry-style smartphones with buttons, very laggy and a complete resource hog. The whole history of Android development is full of constant patching and working around bad design decisions with all sorts of crutches. The whole improvement of responsivness and computing speed of Android is a weird mix of turbo boost and adulterants (JIT and the like). Generally it is a terrible mess which can only be fixed by rewriting it from scratch to a clean native code base (or at least C#, where they managed to avoid Java's flaws). Same with GUI, all these triple buffering, kernel acceleration when touch is detected etc are really just lame crutches. iOS, starting from the very first version, has full hardware acceleration and handles process priorities in the right way.
IOS is stale and needs a complete overhaul, but that's not going to happen when Apples user base thinks it's the best just because it's from Apple. The non fanboy is getting sick of the same old BS os.