Did the lack of discreet GPU kill the 13" rMBP for you?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Steve121178, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Steve121178 macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    It's just a simple question that I am putting out there. Sadly it's killed it for me.

    Perhaps any advancement with integrated graphics with Haswell may make the machine a more attractive purchase, but as it stands you would have to be loopy to part with so much cash for a glorified MBA.

    This is the first time I've ever been bitterly disappointed with Apple.
  2. Sech macrumors member

    Mar 31, 2012
    Yes. I lost all interest. We'll see come Hazwell, but I think I'll take an Air with that chipset instead.
  3. InlawBiker macrumors 6502

    Apr 6, 2007
    No, the price killed it for me. But the 13" Pro has never had a discreet GPU before, why would it have one now? Maybe they somehow got the HD4000 to perform nicely but we'll find out shortly.

    At this price I think it's between the 13" Air and the 15" Pro. The former if you have common sense, the latter if you have unlimited funds.
  4. Fed macrumors 6502

    Jul 7, 2012
    Having bought the 13" non-retina this year, I was considering palming this off to my other half and buying the retina... but the lack of a quad core i7 killed it off for me. The retina doesn't bother me at all and frankly the form factor isn't an issue. It's all about the performance and thus without the quad CPU and discreet graphics, there's no point really.
  5. Rizzm macrumors 6502a

    Feb 5, 2012
    Generally I think the retina displays on their notebooks are way overvalued. So it was everything that killed it for me: price, lack of GPU and quad CPU, low base storage.

    Not that I was going to get one anyway. Next year maybe.
  6. Steve121178 thread starter macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK

    See, I know it doesn't have everything I want in a new notebook, but when I see how stunning it is, it puts me in a very difficult position. Arrghhhh!
  7. leo.andres.21 macrumors regular

    Oct 14, 2008
    Centre of the Attention
    The machine should operate fine, you don't need dedicated graphics for the retina display to operate smoothly.
    I personally don't mind, as they can keep the battery life.
    But I don't think my opinion would count for much as I am not looking to buy it.
    I am fairly confident that my current MacBook only a year and a half old mind you can last another 3 years or so, when I finish university. :cool:
  8. Exana macrumors regular

    Mar 15, 2011
    Not only the lake of dGPU, but also the PRICE ! :eek:
  9. xav8tor macrumors 6502a

    Mar 30, 2011
    In a word ...yes. That RAM limit doesn't help either, but HD 4000 integrated GPU pushing Retina rez? Total brain fart by Apple. We are finally seeing the ramifications of Job's untimely death. The pipeline is drying up and things are slipping through that would have resulted in prototypes being thrown back across a room with a few choice words.

    Now, aside from a 100 buck a share loss in the past month, I have yet another reason to dump my AAPL shares.

    PS - Lack of ability to use non TB GPU's to feed TB displays (Cinema or iMac in TDM) is another dumbazz move they've made. I'm not buying more products, more often, but less and less. They've already screwed up the Pro desktop, now the laptop too. As much as I hate Dell (foreign tech support), , they, or HP workstations are starting to look better and better. I'll keep my iPhones/Pad, but the rest???????
  10. MaxPower72 macrumors 6502


    Aug 15, 2012
    Chicago, Illinois, Crooks County
  11. onthecouchagain macrumors 604


    Mar 29, 2011
    The 128 GB at that starter price kind of killed it for me. Not too overly concerned about the graphics chip.
  12. cirus macrumors 6502a

    Mar 15, 2011
    No, because i never thought they would put one in in the first place.

    What killed it was the price. Cmon, it should have 256 GB standard, 128 barely costs more than a 750 GB 2.5 inch HDD
  13. Stetrain macrumors 68040

    Feb 6, 2009
    I'm fine with the GPU.

    Same CPU as the $1199 13" MBP and same SSD/RAM as a $1299 13" Air for a starting price of $1699 is what gets me.

    I was really excited for this product too. Maybe with Haswell things will change a bit.
  14. SlickShoes macrumors 6502a

    Jan 24, 2011
    Yes, I have been wanting a decent GFX chip in the 13 for years as I think the size of the computer is perfect.

    However, I wasn't expecting it, but there is no way in hell i would pay £1499 for any laptop with only 128GB SSD and an intel HD 4000 in it, that is ridiculous.
  15. Steve121178 thread starter macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    Amazingly I am still considering it. I have a base 2011 MBA and the 128 SSD and 4MB RAM makes it very hard to work with.

    With the 13" rMBP I can get the storage I need, plus with the 8GB RAM I will be able to run a Windows 8 VM which will allow me to eliminate my MBA & Vaio Z.
  16. nuckinfutz macrumors 603


    Jul 3, 2002
    Middle Earth
    Yup it does.

    $1700 is a lot of money and I just don't think Retina is that much of an impact to warrant spending the extra money.

    Haswell has the opportunity to bring better graphics performance and quad core to this type of laptop and overall I think it's going to make a better Retina MBP.

    I'll keep my 13" AIR for a year and then see where we are at Rev B.
  17. SlickShoes macrumors 6502a

    Jan 24, 2011
    If i could find a Windows laptop that was as lovely to use as my MBP i'd jump ship, but I can't so here i am!
  18. rmwebs macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2007
    Yup. Lack of a decent GPU, poor config options, and god-awful "blind idiot" prices.

    Seriously, its NOT in any way shape or form a good price, its hellishly overpriced, especially when you look at the low price diff between the base 13" and base 15" retina models.

    Plus the weight difference between the two is minute, so even "portability" doesn't really come into it anymore.

    Most certainly a fools purchase (no offence).
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  20. yusukeaoki macrumors 68030


    Mar 22, 2011
    Tokyo, Japan
    The price and only HD4000 was a huge bummer.
    I would pay a little more cash to buy the 15in retina or save huge amount of cash with the MBA.
  21. defektion macrumors regular

    Jan 29, 2010
    The lack of a discreet GPU does not kill me at all. The Intel HD 4000 is more than capable of doing all your day to day tasks, some lightweight photoshop work, and some light gaming.
  22. Havok83 macrumors regular

    May 12, 2012
    Not really. The price and the fact that the low end model only has 128gb of space was the bigger dissapointment
  23. Beanoir macrumors 6502a


    Dec 9, 2010
    51 degrees North
    I love how people think they know the workings of the Apple board...truth is Jobs departure has nothing to do with the design of a MBP. Get over it.

    In any event, its actually been proven that the HD 4000 is more than powerful enough to cope with the retina display in the 13", so your comments hold no weight at all.
  24. yanksrock100 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 30, 2010
    San Diego
    Not really....the screen can be powered by the Intel 4000 easily, and most of the time, the Intel 4000 is powering the 15 rMBP too. I have to say, 128 SSD is kinda small.
    However, the 13 rMBP is still a very nice product nonetheless. I will certainly consider it.
  25. PapaVBnMOMO macrumors member

    Aug 11, 2012
    I've been waiting for this but I'll be skipping it because of no dGPU and 128 GB
    ssd. A base refurbished 15" cMBP 2012 with AG hi-res is priced at 1599. I will be getting this instead.

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