DNC panel adopts rule requiring candidates to run, serve as a Democrat

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  1. RootBeerMan macrumors 65816

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  2. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

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    Can’t believe this wasn’t always the rule.
     
  3. flyinmac macrumors 68040

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    Should just have every person running as themselves, not a party affiliate. Let them all run to the end, and then the top 2 get President and Vice-President. The whole party affiliation thing is just about party power, not serving the people.
     
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    That’s what we originally had, then we amended the constitution since parties naturally arose, and the top two being president and Vice President failed pretty quickly.
     
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    Ok so Hilary Clinton is now Vice President. How does that work?
     
  6. flyinmac macrumors 68040

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    If it had not been reduced to 1 candidate from each party, who’s to say who would have come in first and second.

    At the end, we picked from 2 party’s top candidates. Certainly not the best candidates out of everyone.
     
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    Already trying to head off Bernie for the next run, I wonder what stooge they will hand pick this time instead of allowing the process to do the work. So many parallels between this and the way liberals govern.
     
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    Obama’s guy Deval Patrick is already being groomed for the corporate wing’s nomination.
     
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    Meanwhile Spain's King just swore in a socialist Prime Minister who promptly appointed a cabinet that is 61% female, including leadership of the defense, economy, finance and education departments. Trump's cabinet level female appointees represent 26% of his government. Oh, and the Spanish PM and his cabinet all took their oaths of office on the Constitution rather than as before on a Bible or a crucifix. No way did that happen in the USA for this particular round of our federal government, as one may have realized by now even if not paying attention at the time. :rolleyes:

    BBC report on Spain: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44382051

    Maybe the Democrats should take a junket to Spain before they once again settle on their nominee so far in advance of the 2020 primaries, seeing as how the last time they went down the road to a premature coronation of their Queen, it didn't work out all that well for them or the USA either by the time the conventions were over. And hey, the Republicans could go along for a refresher course on bipartisan endeavors. After all, both parties want to come up with better nominees in 2020, right?

    Mind you I have nothing against Deval Patrick throwing his hat in the ring... as long as at least he realizes it's not a crown. I think Democratic Party voters understand that. Not sure about the DNC.
     
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    On the left you had Hilary and Sanders and on the right you’d have had Trump and probably Kaisch with Rubio as Secretary of State or VP once Trump resigned.

    Leaving probably Kaisch as president with Hilary as VP once Trump had resigned for not being second fiddle to anyone.

    The real issue is that too many quality candidates aren’t even going into politics in the first place. There are plenty of people on this forum who I’d prefer to see as president than Trump or Hilary.
     
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    Hmm, so you’re saying that women must be in the majority of government positions? I guess that’s not considered sexist nowadays.
     
  12. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Equality is probably going to lead to a cabinet being 40-60% female.
     
  13. alex2792 macrumors 6502a

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    No, gender equality would be 49%/51% male/female split, which mirrors the gender composition of the country. 60% would marginalize the male population.
     
  14. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Not when you’re choosing people on talent. Sometimes you’re going to get more bias one way or another.
     
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    But that runs counter to progressive principles when it comes to diversity. They demand that companies hire people based on race (translation: no whites or Asians need apply). Meritocracy is unfair so we must make things fair by instituting a quota system, anything less results in marginalization.
     
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    It's not even a norm --shall I say "yet"?-- so let's not get all crazed over the question of whether it has suddenly become sexist to have an imbalance of gender representation in government ministries.

    If that were the case then it has been sexist for centuries for government councilors to have leaned so disproportionately male until recently. I'm perfectly willing to say instead that we have begun to give more opportunity to qualified women as well as to men today.

    As the BBC piece that I cited does note with respect to government other than the new Spanish one, "Only a handful of countries currently have governments where at least 50% of ministers are women. They include France, Sweden and Canada."
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    Lighten up, it's the weekend FFS.
     
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    Non upper/upper middle class whites get ****ed by “pure” meritocracy just like minorities.

    The only flaw with current affirmative action is that poor whites don’t get any benefit.
     
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    God help us.
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    Spain is a **** show. Are you aware of this?
     
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    You’re aware of the predatory nature of the IMF and WTO that has caused the same dynamic from Honduras to Greece to Spain right? Italy is a prime example currently as well.
     
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    You are aware Greece and Spain and Italy are in the EU who are defintely a big fish in the WTO? IMF is more arguable as I believe countries are individually members of them.

    If there’s a WTO issue blame the EU and/or the Italian government.
     
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    I’m aware, the EU pushes just as much austerity in these nations as well. Austerity for the masses is why the fascist reactionaries are springing up all over the world.
     
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    Not sure about the last sentence, but I would think that Democrats would allow anybody who shares their values and supports their policies to run under their banner. So now what? Bernie runs as independent because the DNC have the heads up their backside, splitting the liberal vote between Bernie and the DNC's candidate, and we get another 4 years of Trump. Peachy.
     
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    I believe parties, groups of like minded citizens will always exist. They could easily be called coalitions.
     
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    Or Bernie joins the party...
     

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