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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by heron88, Feb 20, 2009.
Title says it all.
on what grounds?
No; he really hasn't done anything that shows results to approve of. I don't tend to approve of any full-time politician, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I disapprove.
I think you should add a "to soon to tell" poll option. I wanted him to win because I thought he was the better choice, but I always had in the back of my mind that when someone does get into office that that person can be changed by the office.
So, really not sure yet. I think he is trying to do what he promised but being on the campaign trail and not having to deal with congress is pretty different than being in office and having the checks and balances.
Nothing in the past 30 days have made me change my mind about him. I disapprove.
For a guy put into a bad spot, he seems to be treading water very well at the moment.
I hope he has a full 8 years to prove his metal. If the U.S. can stomach GWB for 8, I say give him a fighting chance.
Obama visits Harper, in Canada.
I partially approve - as I usually do with any politician. I was hoping for a real liberal to be elected so we will have to make do with a centrist.
I say the same thing, too. By the time we have seen some action by the President, he will, by the force of Congress, or by contributors, have to be a centrist and leave any liberal ideals he had far behind. That's why I voted Green Party. Some leftists don't see much difference between Obama and Bush, especially with the tax cuts for the rich, but I wouldn't go that far. It's just that Obama, as any US President, is just one spoke in a wheel which includes the judiciary, legislature, lobbyists, and business (big and small).
The only major difference that may be made by Obama, if he gets eight years, will be a move towards national health care, but then again, if it happens, he would have only been a small contribution towards that. Current news would be praising or cursing him on this issue, but history will forget his and any President's legacies. It's hard to remember the legacies of any President in my lifetime that I still find legitimate today compared to how they were perceived at the time.
W - fighter of terrorism
Clinton - brought back the US economy to growth levels sustained longer than any previous Presidents' term
George Bush - liberator of Kuwait
Ronald Reagan - the great communicator between a divided Congress
Jimmy Carter - man of peace in the Middle East between Israel and Egypt
Gerald Ford - return to normalcy after the dishonesty of Nixon
Richard Nixon - opened up China to the west
Lyndon Johnson - Civil Rights Act
John F Kennedy - stood up to Fidel Castro
I see these as all great achievements, but depending on how one votes, it's easy to pull out the negative points in any of these Presidents' administrations. Though I am a Democrat, and often vote and think to the left of that, I think Nixon's olive branch to China was the most important factor in ending a threat of a third world war. But I do believe any Democrat would have done the same as the Communists and the West were coming dangerously close to a major military confrontation.
i'm 26 and just got into politics over the last 4-5 years. it's nice to be proud of our president. Even though he doesn't have the experience at least he can form a complete and coherent sentence.
I do worry though, since it's the first one I'm proud of, if he fails that's one thing, but if he falls into the same gutter that the rest fall into. . .then I won't have much faith in government for a long time
You are very wise for only 26.
Yes, The System has ground-up and spit out better men than Obama, and yet it still survives.
I don't approve of what he's done so far specifically the stimulus and bailouts, and I don't approve of many of his policies, which is why I didn't vote for him, and wont vote for him in 2012.
No way! Look what the expectations of the stimulus bill have done to the stock market...
Look at the poll results. Currently only 45% of people voting approve of him.
'Approve' is a strange choice of words.
+1. Agree with might have been a better choice. I'm not President Obama's mother, so I don't really "approve" of anything he chooses. I might not agree with some things, but there's no real "approval" on my part.
After a year in office, approval or disapproval will have more facts supporters and detractors can base their opinions on. As for disapproval, W proved his mettle.
I'm not so sure about 'approve' either, but I am happy he took swift action on Guantanamo, I think more or less he's got the right idea about foreign policy (though the whole Hamas letter thing.. I don't get what the problem was there). But the bailout, I think this one is better than the last one. I'm curious to see what kind of infrastructural improvements we will see. The money should have been there a long time ago though. America's infrastructure is not all that good.
I wish some of that money could go to improved urban planning. Maybe it is? This is a country designed for cars. If you want to end dependence on foreign oil, go green, etc you need to reshape and rethink the way towns are built. And that is only the tip of the iceberg on the benefits of better planning!
The bailout was going to go through anyway. Since it has, instead of complaining about it, I hope that state and local leaders will try to make the most of it.
But not on everything
But compared to the last 8 year, the ways the nation is going looks great. And if he (only)backs down from few promises from he campaign, I'll be very happy!
Well, his first week in office he repealed a ban on funding for international institutions that perform abortions. Then, he seemed to pick every person under the sun who owed back taxes and appoint them. Then to top it off, he completely ignored his promise of bipartisanship on the stimulus package. Don't just say the Republicans voted unanimously "just because." There was a LOT of pork in that bill.
The weatherization argument is a joke. That's creating temporary jobs. We need stuff for the long term.
So no. So far, I don't approve of the job he's doing. However, I will give him the benefit of the doubt on the stimulus, because I can't predict how it'll turn out. But there's a lot of crap in that bill, and I wouldn't have voted to approve it. He claims the bill wasn't "perfect." If it's so imperfect, then he should make DAMN sure it GETS perfect when he's messing with $800 BILLION dollars.
I have no say because frankly, it's only been a month since he became President!
He's stumbling a bit more than I expected...
First off, I don't approve of Obama because I fundamentally disagree with his economic policies that appear to be boarder line socialism.
He has made so many promises that I know he cannot fulfill. Yes, all politicians make up fake promises but Obama has promised over 500 things. The way I see it he has no credentials aside from being in the senate for 2 years (but he didn't accomplish a whole lot). People joke that Sarah Palin was unqualified but I don't see her being much more qualified than Obama.
What I do like about Obama is that he is an excellent speaker and can possibly motivate people. But thats about it.
You might find this article interesting then:
As neither a Democrat or Republican, I would say that it speaks to Bush's actual Liberalism, not Obama's centrism. Bush was an extreme fiscal liberal, as have been many Republicans as of late. So, no, Obama is not being a Centrist, it just looks that way because the former Right has moved so far Left (fiscally, at least).
The Democrats have a Senate majority, House majority, more liberal judicial seats, and a very Liberal president... you'd be kidding yourself if you think they're going to check or balance anything. Even the first 30 days have shown evidence that they, in fact, are doing no such thing. Maybe it takes someone disassociated from "DnR" to see it though...
I read that on Poligazette or something and I couldn't stop laughing. PUTIN warning us of Socialism! PUTIN!!!
I agree with him, though! Our economic policy has gotten so far out of whack, it's shocking. When did we all of a sudden decide that we were never going to let a company fail? The reason companies fail in the first place is because their business is inefficient. By bailing these guys out, we're FUNDING consumer exploitation. HELLO!!
Anyway. While I consider myself a social liberal, Obama's fiscal policy is so out of whack, I can't approve him thus far. Hell, my children are so far in debt and they aren't even born yet!
Oh, and has anyone else noticed that Bush's last year of his presidency went as follows: a stimulus bill, real-estate bail-out, TARP. Since Obama has entered office, he has signed a stimulus bill, signed a real-estate bail out, and they're now talking about TARP 2? This is definitely "Change we can Believe" in, folks.
If you've met one politician, you've met them all.