Do you believe in God?

Discussion in 'Community' started by iJon, Feb 2, 2003.

  1. iJon macrumors 604


    Feb 7, 2002
    I think I remember reading a forum like this on some other site, may have been SpyMac, who knows though. But i have found that there are many different responses to this question and they are quite interesting to read and talk about. My answer the question is "yes". what about you guys?

  2. dricci macrumors 6502a

    Dec 15, 2001
    before the religion wars start, I'll answer yes, and quietly leave using the front exits for easier access to the parking lot ;)
  3. 4409723 Suspended


    Jun 22, 2001
    Yes, I believe there is God. It's just too hard for my little brain to think about how the universe just spawned without influence from something greater. Btw, I am 0% religious, this is what I have thought up after thinking about it.

    I too, will make a quick get-away before schem0 gets here and all hell breaks loose.
  4. leghorn macrumors newbie

    Dec 25, 2002
    But as more of a co-existing consciousness than an ego (per religion).
    Is that obtuse enough?
  5. blogo macrumors 6502

    Apr 1, 2002
  6. peterjhill macrumors 65816


    Apr 25, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    14 years of church 3 times a week, twice on sunday, once on wednesday, I once calculated that it would add up to about 200 days in church.

    No I don't believe in god, sorry
  7. 3777 macrumors 6502

    Jul 25, 2002
    For all you people who don't believe in God, I am not sure exactly what is out there or what happens when you die, but there is definitely something more then this. I am not really religious in terms of going to church every Sunday or a big believer in organized religion & things like that............but......... my best friend died at 21 after a long battle with cancer, and right about the time I was at my lowest, and didn't believe in anything, a series of very strange events happened to me ........& it was just about the 2 year mark of his death.......... I don't know what happens after this world, but I am now 100% sure there is more to it then just what we see here.....
  8. WinterMute Moderator emeritus


    Jan 19, 2003
    London, England
    I'm reminded of the line "If god wanted us to believe in him, he'd exist"

    There is no god, just try to get your head round billions upon billions of years of random events from the cosmic to the sub atomic, life is no big deal, it's just another random variation, now, what we do with our self awareness, there's a different story.

    If you need the support of a belief in god, fine, I find I do not, I used to, but various events in my life made me question installed beliefs from my childhood, and once questioned in the light of adult reason and logic I decided there was no god.

    The continued arguments and wars that are continually fought over this question only serve to strengthen my belief. God, Allah, Buddah, all part of the same support system, it's big business for those in power, just remember that religeon and god are almost mutually exclusive.

    You want to believe in god, feel free, talk to me about it, evangelise if you must. I know I am alone in cosmos that cares nothing for me and mine, and that's just fine.
  9. ibjoshua macrumors 6502a


    Jan 17, 2002
    New Zealand
    so . . . . hang on. you saying Steve Jobs isn't god?

    No. Count me out.

    I like the 'randomness' view of the world. I like the patterns and coincidences that we impose on the natural world. For me, it just is.

  10. iAlan macrumors 65816


    Dec 11, 2002
    Location: Location:
    Many cultures have their own form of 'religion'.
    Honestly, I don't know. I think there is something greater, but what that is, I don't know. I do not think we are alone, and i don't mean in an X-Files kind of way. Some may call it 'God', some call it 'fate' and others something else. I just think there has to be more.

    'Gods' have started more wars than stopped them - religion is the greatest instigator of conflict - this is the human way of justifying our actions - if people really beleived in an all mighty force, I am sure they wouldn7t want to piss him/her off.
  11. King Cobra macrumors 603

    Mar 2, 2002
    I don't either.

    I won't argue with anybody's opinions, but I feel if you need to turn to someone, whether you are alone or not, it's yourself.
  12. job macrumors 68040


    Jan 25, 2002
    in transit
    I do.

    I believe that there is a God.

    And I'm getting out of here before the religious/existential debates start.
  13. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

    Dont Hurt Me

    Dec 21, 2002
    Yahooville S.C.
    I am not big on religion for i believe they are all man made and therefore screwed up in one way or another! I also believe that a very lot of humans need religion so they dont get lost sort of speak.Now with that said look at all the universe and everything that makes it up!How can you not be in total awe!For us to say it all just happened comes from our ignorance.Yes i believe in God!And yes there is probably a lot more going on then we can fathom or see or detect!The big bang was just another of his mighty strokes!
  14. medea macrumors 68030


    Aug 4, 2002
    Madison, Wi
    no I do not belive in a God, but I am not going to decry that there is no God either because I do not know that. And if I were to belive in the "christian" God I would need more "proof" than the Bible.
  15. beez7777 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 5, 2002
    Notre Dame
    At the moment, i am not sure. I was raised a catholic for 15 years and attend a catholic school, but for the past few months or so i have been questioning what i was taught. I think there has to be some higher form of force or energy, it's hard to believe that everything was a coincidence. Do i believe in a physical heaven or hell? no. i think that these are both internal states of being that are achieved throughout your life based on the decisions you make. as for the origional question, i honestly do not now right now.
  16. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Re: Mike Reed

    In the beginning, before bandwidth, there was nothingness. Out of that endless void God and His heavenly host created...Arpanet, and it was good. But the scientific, military and computer angels Who dwelled in Arpanet were lonely, so They brought forth Browser, and the Web was born. It, too, was good and the children of the internet lived in peace and harmony and were fruitful and multiplied, but God warned His people not to eat of the forbidden fruit of commercialism. Alas, they disobeyed and soon barbarians drove the children of the internet out of Paradise. God, in His wrath, turned away from His people and condemned them to wander in the digital wilderness, but from time to time He will suddenly appear in mailing lists, chat rooms and discussion forums to remind us sinners that we could be saved if only we would hearken unto Him.

  17. hobie macrumors member

    May 27, 2002
    far, far away
    I once had a similar situation:
    I good friend of mine died at the age of 19. The autopsy didn't reveal anything. No drug and alcohol abuse, no blood clumps, no heart attack, no nothing! He just fell dead on a sunny easter sunday afternoon, between his friends! And nobody could do anything. He was top fit, and yet he died all of a sudden. At his funeral I had the chance to have a last look at him. And it was disturbing to look at a young boy, lying dead in front of you without a reason!

    Now what did it teach me?!? That there must be a god who gives live and takes it away again. For me it's impossible to not believe in God.

    But if anybody will ever deliver the proof that there's really no god at all, I will change my view instantly! Fortunately nobody can ever deliver that proof :)
  18. funkywhat2 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 14, 2002
    Can't say that I do. But for those of you who think that without a God, nothing could have happened, I ask you: Where did God come from?
  19. GeneR macrumors 6502a


    Jan 2, 2003
    The land of delusions, CA.
    Yep. I believe in God.

    Yep. I believe in God. I remember years ago when I felt differently. I was angry and at one point said, "You know, the only way you'd get me to go to church is if I ended up working there..."

    Sure, enough. That's what happened. But that didn't convince me that He existed. Coming from a more scientific point of view, I thought more in terms of humanistic viewpoints of the world. But even that did not wash.

    What changed me was meeting people of different religions these last twelve years has. Also meeting those people into the more esoteric arts -- people into New Agy stuff and some truly dark stuff. A lot of pretty scarey stuff out there. Anyway, I'm sure I'll end up writing a screenplay about it at some point.

    Do I believe in God? Yep. I think I've been blessed with enough facts to turn this ultra stubborn mind around. And then some.

  20. MrMacMan macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2001
    1 Block away from NYC.
    Yes, there is a higher being, but it didn't create everything, it created the people and animals on this planet.

    ALLAH! ;) + :rolleyes: (Not meaning to dis islamic people)
  21. iJon thread starter macrumors 604


    Feb 7, 2002
    thats really how i feel. i mean even scientists today cant even think of anything that would make more sense than the bible or something that would have a better chance. We have more docementation on Jesus than George Washington. As for God, "if he wanted us to believe he would show himself". he did, he was in a physical form called Jesus. I think I became christian just because i was scared s***less of where i was gonna go when i die. then i started learning more about god and the bible. I just feel that everything around us couldnt just happen for a molucule or something floating in space and the bible i feel just couldnt just be a book from generation and generations ago from the middle east and some guy just decided to write it.

  22. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    I don't know about 'God' per say, but I do believe in something greater than ourselves that's more than the sum of our parts whether it be actual or just inside our heads, it's still real to me.
  23. Backtothemac macrumors 601


    Jan 3, 2002
    San Destin Florida
    Waterminute, I will pray for you. I don't know what happened that made you so bitter.

    I can say this. I buried my mother when I was 15. She had a astrocytoma (sp) and a gleoblastoma(sp) on her brain. The astro was in opperable, and there was nothing that they could do. That woman, never, not one time said why me. She accepted what was happening to her even though she was leaving behind her 15 year old son. She told me to never question her death. That God needed her, or she had done her work here. Her time was over. She accepted her fate on this planet. Since she died, there have been numerous things that have happened to me that I cannot explain, that have no logical explanation.

    Not to give up much info, so I wil give a slight example. In 1988 I was in a car wreck. A drunk driver hit me head on at over 65 miles an hour. My skid marks were 10feet long, and his did not exist. He crossed the middle of the road. He had a broken back, two broken arms. A broken pelvis, and nearly died. The motor of my car was sitting in the passenger seat next to me. I broke the stearing column, and the stearing wheel. The frame on my car was bent in 28 different places. I did not have a scratch on my body.

    The cops could not believe I was alive. I was in a Dodge Daytona. Not known for safety.

    Anyway, I pray for anyone that can look up and night, at the vastness of the universe and think that there is not a creator that has given life to the universe. I believe in Christ, that is my path. I don't care what religion you are, but open your heart and mind, and let God come into your life.

    Now, I leave before people start flaming me as some right wing republican ;)

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