Do you consider Obama Black, white or mixed?

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Do you consider Obama Black, white or mixed?

  1. Black

    29 vote(s)
    38.7%
  2. White

    2 vote(s)
    2.7%
  3. Mixed

    42 vote(s)
    56.0%
  4. Other, not sure

    3 vote(s)
    4.0%
  1. Frisco macrumors 68020

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    All of the above, can we kill this one? the thread that is.
     
  3. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    his grandmother was white ... I believe that is when the mix started
     
  4. Frisco thread starter macrumors 68020

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    If he is mixed, then how can he be the first US Black President?
     
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    Because he's African American. Just because he wasn't born in Zimbabwe doesn't mean he's not black, per se.

    For what it's worth, black is a relative term anyway. Don't forget that even if he were pure African, he couldn't be president in the first place.
     
  6. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    He is a Black man ... therefore he is a Black President
     
  7. Frisco thread starter macrumors 68020

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    In my opinion the race of your mother should determine her off springs race. We never hear much about Obama's mother?
     
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    Because she died when he was a little kid....what are you trying to imply?
     
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  10. Frisco thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Visually yes. Would you classify an African Albino as white?
     
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    throughout the history of the USA if you could pass for white, then you're white, and if you couldn't, then you're black


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    you're confusing the name of colors with terms for racial identification.
     
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    the color of your skin and your parental background determines ... Obama was born as a black man because of his Kenyan Father's dominate genes.

    Black or White ... who cares? ... We should all be above Race and Gender issues by now.
     
  13. Frisco, Jul 3, 2011
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    I have nothing against anyone's color, race or religion. But I always wonder why he is classified as "1st Black President?" His mother is white--why is that forgotten?"

    I take it most are voting in this poll on the color of his skin? Yes he looks black, but 50% of him is white. I am surprised by the lack of people not choosing "mixed."

    He is mixed, but people judge you for the "color" of your skin.
     
  14. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    Would it make more sense to label him ... "The First Black President" (with a White Mother and Black Father)

    He is America's First Black President because he is Black.
     
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    He has many characteristics that we normally associate with "black" people.

    Therefore, he is black.
     
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    His mother is why he is what he is today. No big surprise there, there have been innumerable articles about her and her relationship with her son.

    I don't think it's a big deal calling him the first black president. I'm sure that many other presidents have dark skinned ancestors but "back then" it wasn't cool to brag about it. Also, remember there were quite a few years when the Irish weren't considered "white". We don't call the Irish, mixed, today.

    An important distinction though is that unlike his wife, he is not the descendant of slaves. So, his experience as a black man in America is very different than black men whose ancestors were slaves.

    As Americans, we have a strong need to know other people by way of their ancestry. Their ethnicity and skin color are important parts of that.

    When people call me white, I don't feel a need to correct them and say that I'm Finnish, German and English with a possibility of some Dutch blood about 6 generations back. When it comes to filling out forms or ticking boxes, I try to be as explicit as I can.

    I think it's perfectly fine to say he's black just like I'm white and my neighbor is hispanic. While it's terrible that some people use such single word definitions pejoratively, for many younger people, it's not that big of a deal.
     
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    I think you missed one of the choices of
    I do not ****ing care what race he is.

    Lets face it. Race should not matter at all.
     
  18. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    Because he chooses to "forget" it. He self-identifies as black.

    He's not the first black president, but that's how he's marketed himself. Truth be told, I don't see much difference between him trying to sweep his white SWPL-class upbringing under the rug and the way JFK reinvented himself back in the day (less Harvard, more Boston) to make himself more electable.
     
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    Good one. He seems like a far more responsible head of state than his predecessor ever did. I don't care if he eats fried chicken and watermelon at every meal, as long as he doesn't internalize certain other traits that are stereotypical for black communities in the USA, such as anti-intellectualism and the glorification of Malcolm X.
    Yeah, sure, but how many African American guys would accept to have a white son-in-law? Or a white brother-in-law? Go figure, and you will see to what extent race actually does matter.
     
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    The only thing I'm curious about is why this thread hasn't been locked and sent to the Wasteland.

    Reported.
     
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    Chocolate actually, leaning more to milk than to dark.
     
  22. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    This was America's first purely black president.

    [​IMG]

    I'd call him milquetoast. But that's me. ;)
     
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    What does SWPL mean?

    Obama is truly a president of his era. Born and raised in exotic Hawaii, foreign born father, lived a few years abroad, found himself in Chicago, Ivy League university... I think it's really disingenuous to classify him so simplistically.

    He may be half white but the part that most people see and judge him by is the black half.
     
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    Why? Are you not comfortable having an adult conversation about race?
     

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