Do you support legalizing online gambling?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by iBlazed, May 27, 2014.

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Do you support legalized gambling?

  1. Traditional casinos only.

    7 vote(s)
    14.9%
  2. Both traditional and online casinos.

    26 vote(s)
    55.3%
  3. Neither.

    14 vote(s)
    29.8%
  1. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    I honestly thought national support for online gambling would be much higher, but it's actually only 27% of all Americans who support it according to this new poll. I know that it's legal here in NJ as of last year, but had no idea it's illegal in 47 other states. Personally, I am in favor of it. I view it as a personal freedom thing. It's actually pretty cool the way it works, and here it's well regulated and only the Atlantic City casinos are allowed to run the online gambling sites and apps here in NJ. They even have a multi-step verification process to make sure you're actually located within the state when you play. What do you think about online gambling and gambling in general?

    Let me also add I've had some fun with it. I created an online account with the Tropicana Casino and deposited $50 into it back in October. My account is now at $680. We play it as a family sometimes, I even got my grandma spinning the slot machines on my computer, her one click earned me $70!! :D
     
  2. senseless macrumors 68000

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    No, too easy for depressed, elderly or intoxicated people to lose their life savings online. Add college students to the list. This is a terrible idea with high costs to society. The welfare rolls will soar if this is adopted.
     
  3. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Nothing stops those people from purchasing large numbers of lottery tickets.
     
  4. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    Gambling looks like better odds and online is even easier.
     
  5. iBlazed, May 27, 2014
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    iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Here's a couple of screenshots, you basically have access to all the games you would have there.
    I posted the desktop and iPhone versions.
     

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  6. noodlemanc macrumors regular

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    Of course -- people should be able to do whatever they want with their money.
     
  7. iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I should also mention that my state is currently suing the federal government so that we can legalize online sports betting as well, which is currently illegal under federal law.
     
  8. Happybunny, May 28, 2014
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    I personally have absolutely no problem with legal online gambling. I find the casinos in Las Vegas a fascinating show, but personally I didn't do any gambling during my three day stay.
     
  9. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Agreed.

    The government hates the competition.;)
     
  10. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Ain't that the truth.
     
  11. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    The online gambling question is complicated somewhat by the fact that large US casino operators (paging Mr Adelson...) - people who give hundreds of millions to Republican and Tea Party candidates - are strongly opposed to it.

    Obviously, its not due to any concerns about the moral wickedness of gambling; nor on the financial societal and familial costs of gambling addiction.

    No, its concern about competition.
     
  12. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    Agreed. Just another avenue for large companies to socially engineer/brain hack people into giving their $ away. Costs to society are too high.
     
  13. Huntn macrumors G5

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    I see no reason to expand its influence. Gambling is a losing proposition for most people. I believe society would be better off without it, but comprehend the reality of the situation, the cats out of the bag.
     
  14. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Gotta protect people from themselves, eh?
     
  15. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    It would be impossible to police the integrity of the games, so you'd end up with a slew of online scams.

    Make it mandatory for the online casinos to only be an extension of brick and mortar casinos so there is a real organization with assets to hold accountable if they start scamming users.
     
  16. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    No reason you could not make wagers among friends. When it becomes big business, like most things, it just goes downhill.
     
  17. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    Yes, actually. Part of the reason fraud is illegal. And usury.
     
  18. iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    That's exactly how it works here. On top of that, the physical servers themselves must be located in Atlantic City.
     
  19. aerok macrumors 65816

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    I really like that! Best way to avoid scams indeed
     
  20. Tomorrow macrumors 604

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    This. Seems like it would be much easier to find ways to cheat - both sides - than in traditional casinos.

    Reason #2 - too difficult to police. There's no good way to make sure minors aren't using it.
     
  21. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Yeah.. that would simply give Sheldon Alderson and his ilk a monopoly on what could be run online. Which is exactly what he wants, BTW:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanv...nd-whatever-it-takes-to-stop-online-gambling/
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-adv-adelson-online-gambling-20140521-story.html#page=1
    http://www.businessweek.com/article...n-electable-republican-who-hates-online-poker

    Anything to keep the money going to him, and not to anyone else, insuring fair competition.

    And to think that he is now CEO of the company who was blessed to have the crowds drawn to that place by the Rat Pack.

    BL.
     
  22. iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    When I created my account, I had to verify my identity with them by faxing my driver's license to them and they have my social security and everything to make sure the name on the license is mine. Nobody can access my account, even if they have my password because when I log in they text a unique 4 digit code to my phone and I have to enter it every single time. The only way minors can use it is if their parents knowingly make an account in their names and let their kids use it. They would have to consciously give their kids the 4 digit code from their phone every single time. That's some seriously bad parenting, and I doubt it would be a widespread issue.

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    Seems to be working here.
     
  23. Tomorrow macrumors 604

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    So, if I make an account for myself, and my child gets hold of my phone while I'm sleeping and uses it...I'm a "seriously bad" parent?

    I don't know...I don't really have secrets in my house. No real need to lock up my phone from my kid. Still, the whole system seems pretty easy to defeat.

    As for being widespread - how widespread does it need to be to be a bad idea?
     
  24. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Anybody who gambles electronically is a fool.
     
  25. iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    So your kid knows your user name and password and has access to your unlocked phone? If so, that's up to you. It's only easy to defeat if you're completely irresponsible and careless. If your phone is instantly turned into a casino with a single app, maybe you should guard it from your kids a little better. And maybe change your password...
     

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