Do you trust Safari with your credit card info?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by DramaLLama, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. DramaLLama macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    #1
    It seems convenient but I have yet to let Safari save my credit card info... has anyone?
     
  2. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #2
    That's a good question. I don't know if I would. I use Firefox since Safari is missing decent cookie handling nor does it allow one window to be normal browsing and another window to be private browsing.
     
  3. firedept macrumors 603

    firedept

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Location:
    Somewhere!
    #3
    I do not trust any browser with my credit card info. I use 1Password 4 for securely storing my passwords and info, but still not my credit card. I just feel uncomfortable allowing this kind of info to be anywhere but in my wallet.

    Yes I have used it online to purchase things, but I must be very sure of the site I am dealing with and even that is never a guarantee.
     
  4. Alrescha macrumors 68020

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    #4
    It hasn't come up yet, but as I trust Amazon with my credit card info, I would probably trust Safari at least as much.

    A.
     
  5. colshine macrumors regular

    colshine

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Location:
    UK
    #5
    Same here - credit card information is not stored anywhere.
     
  6. Crusader007 macrumors member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2013
    #6
    I totally agree with firedept. Storing any CC info locally on your machine or browser is quite unsafe. Safe bet is to manually enter the CC details every time you shop.
     
  7. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Location:
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    #7
    Like Firedept, I use 1Password; it stores the data with strong encryption, and I use a complicated key to open 1Password. Wouldn't trust the browsers though
     
  8. Weaselboy Moderator

    Weaselboy

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Location:
    California
    #8
    It is actually not stored by Safari, it is stored in the Keychain app. Safari just accesses the info from Keychain. You can see it in my Keychain screenshot below.

    The Keychain is encrypted by default with your login password, so it is fairly safe. Even if someone steals your machine and resets your password, they still would not have your Keychain password.

    I use it for CC info, but I also use Filevault full disk encryption, so I am not worried about someone stealing my Mac and getting the information.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Badrottie Suspended

    Badrottie

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    #9
    Is it true the filevault will slow down macbook? :apple:
     
  10. Weaselboy Moderator

    Weaselboy

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Location:
    California
    #10
    Very slightly. Here is a test from when FV came out with Lion showing some slow down.

    I have used it since it came out and I don't notice any slowdown at all. It is very transparent in operation.
     
  11. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #11
    Not noticeably.
    One thing to remember is that Lion and later have FileVault 2 and there are a lot of issues and limitations that the original FileVault had on Snow Leopard that don't exist for FileVault 2. When you do a web search on FIleVault performance (and issues) you have to be aware of which version of FileVault the web page is talking about.
     
  12. DramaLLama thread starter macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    #12
    I've given in and am trying it out (having my cc in safari) because of this post.
     
  13. ghanwani macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    #13
    If you are that paranoid you should look into the service provided by credit card companies where you log in to their website and get a single use limited time temporary number with a $ limit that you can use on any website. They won't get your real card info and the damage they can do would be limited to the amount you specify.

    With card info getting stolen from very reputable merchants, I think your card info is never really safe even if you think it is.
     
  14. firedept, Jan 30, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2014

    firedept macrumors 603

    firedept

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Location:
    Somewhere!
    #14
    Not paranoid at all, to old for that. Note that I said I do use my card online for purchases, I just do not store my card info anywhere on my computers.
     
  15. maflynn Moderator

    maflynn

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Location:
    Boston
    #15
    No, I leave my finance stuff out of safari.

    ----------

    Its not paranoia, its realizing that the more the information is out there, the less secure it will be. There's really no reason to store the info in safari, more secure solutions are available plus it can't hurt to manually type it in
     
  16. ghanwani macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    #16
    My paranoia observation was directed at the following comment:
    >>>
    Yes I have used it online to purchase things, but I must be very sure of the site I am dealing with and even that is never a guarantee.
    >>>

    I think you can shop without fear anywhere if you use the temporary card number feature provided by credit card companies.
     
  17. firedept macrumors 603

    firedept

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Location:
    Somewhere!
    #17
    Have your card number stolen some time. It can change your perspective of how important it is to protect your private info pretty quick. And yes, I have always been careful. You just never know.
     
  18. ghanwani, Jan 30, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2014

    ghanwani macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    #18
    No need to get personal.

    I have been through it many times. The point is...your card number can get stolen at your favorite restaurant. It doesn't have to be only online. Most of the time, the anomalous behavior is detected by the credit card company within a few charges even before a statement is generated.

    Anyway, I don't use safari and I don't store credit card info in my browser. But many merchants I deal with store it on their site and given the recent increase in security breaches at various merchants (we hear about the big ones, but the small ones you will never hear about), so while I'm not advocating being outright irresponsible, I don't think there's any way to guarantee protection.
     
  19. firedept macrumors 603

    firedept

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Location:
    Somewhere!
    #20
    Nothing personal intended. :) I have been the victim of cc fraud, hence my feeling about my personal info. And mine was stolen many years ago before the internet existed. I was always very careful with it and never just handed it out, but it still happened.

    But it amazes me how easily people hand out this info these days or where they will store it. People think putting it on the computer with a password is completely safe. Well thieves are more clever than ever theses days. Example Target stores. I have to agree with you about there being no way to ever guarantee its protection.
     
  20. sixrom macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    #21
    I take advantage of this very same method, as Filevault has an excellent track record. Everything involves some risk, so I've chosen accordingly.
     
  21. Designer Dale macrumors 68040

    Designer Dale

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Location:
    Folding space
    #22
    Amazon and Apple have my cc info and nothing is automatic. I have to log into either account to use it. Other than that, it's stored on a piece of plastic in my wallet. I really don't mind the extra step of entering stuff like this by hand.

    Dale
     
  22. flynz4 macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2009
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    #23
    I have had my credit card breached a few times... specifically in Europe rather than in the USA. European credit cards have the chip... so they are fairly secure. Those of us in Europe with USA credit cards are more at risk... since there are far fewer of us using the insecure credit cards... so percentage wise, we are more likely to be targeted by a their working in a store.

    Having a credit card breached is pretty innocuous compared to most fraud. At least in the US, you are only liable for $50. In both cases, was not charged at all... just had to wait a couple of days till my replacement card arrived.

    I do use 1Password to hold my information. It is more secure than actually using the card... irrespective if it is online or in person.

    /Jim
     
  23. DramaLLama thread starter macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    #24
    How much are you liable for in Europe?
     
  24. Micky Do macrumors 68000

    Micky Do

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Location:
    An island in the Andaman Sea.
    #25
    I have yet to get a credit card.
     

Share This Page