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I know that apple does sell 87W adapter with usb-c cable ... both together around 100$ dollar

i think if we buy this we charge our iphone 8 and x is super fast .....

but i didnt see anyone commant this in forum ,




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I think if we buy those 2 and charge for new iphone X is really fast ,

87W can bring 1% to 100% = 30 Minutes easily
 
Once the battery hits 50% the voltage is reduced so you can do 0-50% in 30 minutes.
There’s no benefit in the higher 87 watt chargers though, the 29w MacBook charger is all that is needed.
 
Once the battery hits 50% the voltage is reduced so you can do 0-50% in 30 minutes.
There’s no benefit in the higher 87 watt chargers though, the 29w MacBook charger is all that is needed.
I tested this with my friends iphone 8+ actually (I have the 87 watt for my 15" 2017 macbook pro, he has the 29w). The 87 watt was bit faster, but honestly it was negligible; definitely not worth the extra money.
 
but if you allready have mac which uses usb-c ..it is not so much extra cost for the usb-c cable with lighting...

What about the cables you could find on ebay from hongkong and china..? is it sure to use them?
 
but if you allready have mac which uses usb-c ..it is not so much extra cost for the usb-c cable with lighting...

What about the cables you could find on ebay from hongkong and china..? is it sure to use them?
i don't bother with knockoff cables. They are not at the same standard, so they charge slower and can actually damage your phones battery. You can find original apple cables on ebay for half the price, they just dont ship with a box to save on shipping costs. As an example, I got an original Apple USB-c to lightning cable from ebay for $20 free shipping, its $35 at Apple.
 
Don't know the difference in cost or the use, but the 12W or maybe 10W seems like the sweet spot, compared to assumed cost.

Good to see that even the 10W is a huge step up. Assuming fast charging is the future standard, they could have included a 10W as the new standard, but maybe that's coming in 2020 - after they make their accessory money off this "circumstance".
 
Nope. Not how it works.

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Basically, anything higher than the 5W charger will give you a quick charge.
Eh rumor is that the iPhone 8 and X can accept up to 18W, so that’s likely what you’ll need from a third party charger at least if you want full speed. Anything higher is not being used and anything lower means you aren’t getting full speed. So you definitely don’t need to buy Apple’s $50 29W charger.
 
Eh rumor is that the iPhone 8 and X can accept up to 18W, so that’s likely what you’ll need from a third party charger at least if you want full speed. Anything higher is not being used and anything lower means you aren’t getting full speed. So you definitely don’t need to buy Apple’s $50 29W charger.
I mean, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding is the real-world test chart I attached.
 
You don't even need an Apple branded charger, there are plenty of high power USB C chargers out there. You just need to make sure not to get the QuickCharge branded ones.
 
I mean, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding is the real-world test chart I attached.
Your chart skips from 12 to 29 because it didn’t test any third party chargers. It doesn’t tell us the actual max Watts that iPhone X and 8 accept. It just proves that the max speed is attained at a wattage somewhere between 13 and 29. We know it can go faster than 12W, but we don’t know how many watts it is actually drawing from the 29+ chargers. So again, rumor is it is drawing 18 W from those 29+ chargers, and thus any 18+ third party charger will still be giving it max draw
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You don't even need an Apple branded charger, there are plenty of high power USB C chargers out there. You just need to make sure not to get the QuickCharge branded ones.
What’s wrong with the QuickCharge USB C chargers?
 
Quick charge is a Qualcomm thing and aimed at android phones. It ups the voltage above the 5v spec that USB-A is meant to use.

Apple and google use usb power delivery spec, which uses the USB-C connector and that’s designed for the extra voltage.
 
i don't bother with knockoff cables. They are not at the same standard, so they charge slower and can actually damage your phones battery. You can find original apple cables on ebay for half the price, they just dont ship with a box to save on shipping costs. As an example, I got an original Apple USB-c to lightning cable from ebay for $20 free shipping, its $35 at Apple.

could you PM me with some link of those original usb-c lightings?
 
This. I mean the other chargers are a bit faster, but to be honest I'm OK with let's say 40% vs 50% in 30 minutes. That extra 10% (if even) isn't worth $75+ to me.
worthless gimmick. just stick with a 12W iPad brick.
For people who don’t have an iPad already, it makes much more sense to get a faster charger and USB C cable tho. Why not go faster if you can afford it? And you don’t have to buy Apple power bricks. Any 18W or higher third party USB C charger will max out the speed
 
OK dumb question, if you use the iPad brick with wireless charger, will it go any faster than iPhone plug. I admit I'm a bit confused on W and A s
 
What’s wrong with the QuickCharge USB C chargers?
They will work but won't fast charge the phone since they use a proprietary means of fast charging, compared to say the Pixel chargers that use normal USB C charging.
 
For people who don’t have an iPad already, it makes much more sense to get a faster charger and USB C cable tho. Why not go faster if you can afford it? And you don’t have to buy Apple power bricks. Any 18W or higher third party USB C charger will max out the speed

because it's not even worth it. Anker Power Port 2 Elite is under $12 on amazon and will charge the iPhone fast juat as the iPad brick. no need to spend $19/$29/$85 or whatever for the USB C brick and cable. use the lightning cable that comes with your iPhone.

also convenient for travel. not everyone has a USB C female connection so you're stuck with the cable/brick combo in order to get fast charging. my nightstand fast charges both my apple watch and iPhone and also have a topgreener usb wall outlet in my home bar/charging area for family
/friends.

I know many will purchase it and that's fine. for me, don't see the need/benefits. shame we have to purchase something in the first place to "fast charge".
 
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So 87W charge not much diff of 29W ???

i plan to get 87W for my X ....

if this true i would go 29W instead 87W

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