Does Obama deserve re-election?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by aaronvan, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    I’m not sure that he does. Let’s examine some of his accomplishments as President of the United States:

    -- First president to assassinate U.S. citizens without any sort of trial.
    -- Continues to prosecute the failed war in Afghanistan while not articulating an objective.
    -- Deported far, far more illegal aliens than any other administration.
    -- Has ramped up the War on Drugs and unleashed the feds on thousands of medical marijuana shops.
    -- The economy continues to stagnate after 3.5 years and doesn’t appear to be on the mend anytime soon.
    -- Evidently has no problem with the federal government using drones to surveil U.S. citizens.

    It seems to me that Obama is either unwilling or incapable of governing the U.S.A. As an Obama voter, I am mighty disappointed.
  2. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604


    May 28, 2005
    No. But is Romney more qualified?

    Sadly, no. I'll pick Obama, the lesser of the two evils. That's 1 vote against the Koch brothers.
  3. snberk103 macrumors 603

    Oct 22, 2007
    An Island in the Salish Sea
  4. ann713 macrumors 65816

    Nov 30, 2008
    That's nice, yet, you felt the need to post anyway.
  5. tech4all macrumors 68040


    Jun 13, 2004
    I'm no expert, but it's gonna take a lot more than one term to fix what Bush did. With that said, I probably wouldn't vote for Obama. I don't agree with some of his views.

    Will he win? Probably. I think it'll be close, but I think he'll win. IMO, it doesn't matter who wins, it'll be the same result. They're just like Pinocchio; puppets and you know they're usually lying.
  6. SkyBell macrumors 604


    Sep 7, 2006
    Texas, unfortunately.
    As expressed already, there's definitely better people out there for the job, but unfortunately they aren't a choice. I'll take Obama over Romney any day.
  7. snberk103 macrumors 603

    Oct 22, 2007
    An Island in the Salish Sea
    The way the OP was worded seemed to be an open invitation to the rest of the world to express their opinion. So I did.

    This is a reminder that not everyone here is an American. And that something so political should probably acknowledge that it this is an American Issue, and may just as well go straight to PRSI.

    I don't mind people from other nations having a discussion specific to their interests, but people from most other nations usually note in the title that this is something that others may not have an interest in.

    Interestingly enough I just watched a news clip that shows Romney getting booed off a NAACP stage when he vowed to move the US health care system back into the 19th century. There? Happy, eh?
  8. spblat macrumors 6502a


    Jun 18, 2010

    He's got my vote.
  9. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    I'll vote Obama over Romney this election and I am usually GOP leaning (voted Bush in 04 and McCain in 08).
  10. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    Yes. Absolutely 100% yes. Is he the greatest? No. But he's done well with what ha had to deal with.
  11. jsolares macrumors 6502a

    Aug 8, 2011
    Land of eternal Spring
    I think it's not fair to blame or have him accountable for this one
    It could've been a lot worse, had he not acted the US could've gone into a deeper recession, it's not something that's easily fixed.

    You can't undo years of eroding damage done to the backbone of the economy at the snap of your fingers.

    Are there more qualified people? i'm quite certain there are, unfortunately for you guys the other choice is Romney and i'm doubtful he would be any better.

    The nut jobs (christian far far right) are ruining your country and until that gets sorted out it's going to be quite a bumpy ride.
  12. Aldaris macrumors 68000


    Sep 7, 2004
    Salt Lake
    I imagine there ratio for Obama here is closer to the 90% side while Romney has 7% and Ron Paul garnishes 3% lets open a poll and see how close we are.

    As for my opinion, I say no. Yes Obama walked into a **** storm, but he wanted the job and made the promises. He's made some advancements but he's dropped the ball on more than a few items. Don't be making promises to get elected only to screw over the people that helped get you in office.

    Obama ran for transparency (hope and change don't come overnight check out south parks episode on that). He also ran on a 'purple america, no more red america, blue america' that has failed miserably, and class warfare is in full swing. Biden is as much as a nut as Cheney was/is.
  13. Heilage macrumors 68030


    May 1, 2009
    Had I been an US citizen, I would have voted for him. I think he's done some good (albeit far from perfect, but expecting perfection from a President is a utopia I think), and I think he could do more good with four more years.

    Heck, maybe you guys will even join the rest of us in marriage equality. :)
  14. iBlue macrumors Core


    Mar 17, 2005
    London, England

    No more or no less than anyone else eligible for re-election. Do I hope he is re-elected? Well, yes but mostly because the alternative is horrible.
  15. Macman45, Jul 12, 2012
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2012

    Macman45 macrumors G5


    Jul 29, 2011
    Somewhere Back In The Long Ago
    It's rare that I post in here...But this one for me is a deal breaker....If Romney gets elected, I'm not coming home. Now I am aware that makes no difference to any here who don't know me, but consider this. In an ideal situation the Republicans would have fielded at least one half decent, semi-electable candidate. They have not. Obhama has certainly not been outstanding, but I strongly feel that he is the only logical choice for common sense and sanity.

    As to why the Republicans failed to put up stronger opposition, well that one has me stumped...There is rarely a shortage of folks who want to be called Mr President.
  16. Happybunny macrumors 68000

    Sep 9, 2010
    Seen from this side of the water, I really hope that Obama gets re-elected.

    I believe that if Mittens gets in, the US will be at war with Iran within the year.:(
  17. lannisters4life macrumors 6502

    May 14, 2012
    I feel a bit bad for old Obama. He screwed his base on healthcare by trying to engage in this active democracy nonsense and made a bunch of concessions he really shouldn't have, he made the tough call to take out Osama so redneck nuts would think he was the real deal and it only made white liberals upset, and is consistently blamed for wrecking "the economy" when all I hear from economists is that the **** started well before he arrived. He has done some dumb stuff, but he seems like he's trying. I haven't seen a politician here in Australia who looked like he/she actually cared about what's going on in more than 20 years.
  18. Macman45 macrumors G5


    Jul 29, 2011
    Somewhere Back In The Long Ago
    That was my second point. Without a doubt war with Iran would be very much on the cards if Romney gets in. The repercussions of this world-wide are horrifying...Russia, China et. al. are going to side with Iran in any potential conflict. A situation which would bring the west into another "BAy Of Pigs" situation, but without a back-down. Scary, scary stuff.
  19. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    Deserve? Eh. Will I vote for him? You bet.

    spblat's list of accomplishments is one reason. I'm not blind to Obama's faults, but as others have said, the alternative is much worse.

    I also don't blame him for the things he couldn't do because of an obstructionist Congress.

    As to the idea that the Republicans could've run a better, more electable candidate...that just doesn't happen in that party any more. The only two sane Republicans who ran against Romney in the primaries were Huntsman and Roemer, and neither one of those guys really made it out of the starting gate.

    Think of the alternatives we could've had running against Obama right now: Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum....

    Even then we're not out of the woods. Republicans don't exactly have a great track record of choosing VPs. Look at some of the recent candidates and winners: Cheney, Quayle and Palin, all of whom were or would have been a heartbeat away from the presidency. This time around we're facing the possibility of Christie, Barbour, Haley, Jindal and other stellar intellects. Makes the blood run cold, it does.
  20. vanzantapple macrumors 6502


    Aug 26, 2010
    "Deserve" is irrelevant. Does he have enough support to win.

    I wish it was based on who deserves it, Obama and Romney would have been sidelined long ago.
  21. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    You have to be joking.

    What do you mean by prosecute?

    Indeed. Hopefully some better reform will come soon.

    Have you got a reference for this? Surely medical marijuana shops would be operating under a licence. Are there indeed thousands of them that have been fed raided?

    It has been rather slow over there.

    You shouldn't reserve your horror for citizens alone. It's inexcusable to use drones on anyone, especially drones carrying munitions.
  22. Renzatic Suspended


    Aug 3, 2011
    Gramps, what the hell am I paying you for?
    It's funny. My far, far right leaning friend was complaining the other day how unfair it was that the "illegals" get more advantages in the US than the naturalized citizens, and how Obama (who he sometimes refers to as "your president") has been far too soft on deportation because he's a liberal socialist or something like.

    If you mention that more Mexicans have been deported under Obama's administration than Bush's, he'll go off on a tirade about the distribution of wealth for a couple of hours.

    That's one thing you can say about Obama, moreso than any other president since Lincoln, everyone can find something to absolutely hate the guy over, and they'll mention these things over and over and over again. No matter who you talk to, no matter their political stance, their position on the ever sliding scale of left to right, you'll come across at least 5 people in a crowd who believes Obama is absolutely destroying the country.

    ...which makes me think he must be doing something right. Because, comeon, a good compromise leaves everyone angry.
  23. Queso macrumors G4

    Mar 4, 2006
    I see no difference between a munitions laden drone and a Tomahawk Cruise missile to be honest. Both death by remote control, so nothing new.
  24. malman89 macrumors 68000

    May 29, 2011
    This. Also, no one "deserves" to be President. Here's to hoping one day we can have a viable third candidate/party. I'll just keep that dream under wraps though.

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