Domestic Terrorist, Religious zealot, serial killer...all in one.

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  1. Technarchy, Aug 24, 2014
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    We have a rare find. A serial killer who murders in the name of god, and engages in domestic terror to progress a political agenda.

    Was this what Janet Napolitano and the DHS were afraid of with their domestic terrorism report?

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/07/645421/right-wing-extremism/

    Ali Muhammad Brown murdered four people.

    His reasons:

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    And were the victims cops or military or government officials?

    Nope

    One was just some kid college student.

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/suspect-killed-n-teen-vengeance-military-article-1.1911964

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-jer...lso-charged-with-three-murders-in-washington/

    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-killer-no-ones-talking-about-michelle-malkin

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/21/man-charged-in-4-murders-was-on-bloody-crusade-prosecutors-say/
     
  2. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Hey, bad people exist!

    Who knew?

    Better waterboard him just to be on the safe side.
     
  3. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Forgive my ignorance...but I should give a **** about this guy why?
     
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    He's proof that the war with Islam has reached the U.S.

    :rolleyes:
     
  5. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Aah...of course.

    And don't I feel foolish not seeing that obvious explanation for his enormous importance.:eek:



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  6. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    And your point is what exactly?

    Given that there are 1.5 billon Muslims, given that there are 310 million US citizens, given that the US has over the years produced many serial killers.

    The UK and the Netherlands has had this type of rogue lone wolf muslim killers, what makes you think that it wouldn’t happen to you.
     
  7. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Until they start killing, we usually call them Tea Party. :D
     
  8. Technarchy thread starter macrumors 603

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    1. DHS predicted a rise of domestic terror fanatics. Seems like they were on to something.

    2. There are back and forth reports of him operating with accomplices, so this may not be a lone wolf situation.

    Also...

    3. Europe is so inclusive, liberal and has many social programs, so on what grounds would Europe be growing domestic terrorists?
     
  9. Shrink macrumors G3

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    1. One guy does not a "rise" make.

    2. Or...it may be a lone wolf situation. In the absence of hard data, the most parsimonious explanation.

    3. Racism, alive and well in Europe, is one reason.
     
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    Didn't you hear? Barack Obama was elected. Racism is over.
     
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    Sorry, I must have missed the memo.
     
  12. Technarchy thread starter macrumors 603

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    Racism is a major problem for all immigrants in Europe. The special trigger that affects the islamic youth is the in their eyes in injustice of the peoples in Gaza/Iraq.

    The world goes bat **** crazy over Ukraine, but Gaza is pushed under the rug. It is a constant thorn in their minds.
     
  14. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Gaza has certainly been well and neutrally covered by the BBC here.
     
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    I suspect that their issue with racism is really much closer to home than you suggest.

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    certainly it's more comfortable for europeans to place the blame outside of europe instead of looking at their own treatment of minority communities in their own countries
     
  17. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    While Geert Wilders is a problem to the integration of immigrants, and Islamic immigrants in particular. He is not the reason that young men leave the Netherlands and join IS in Iraq and Syria.

    They have been radicalised via the internet and by Imans, in their minds the holy war is fuelled by the news of injustice against Islam in Iraq Gaza and the West Bank. The fact that they believe that the west gives Israel a free pass, but pushes for action over Ukraine.
     
  18. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    Notably they're NOT going off to fight in gaza, but rather to fight other muslims.

    The reason they're susceptible to radicalization in the first place has to do with racism and discrimination where they live in europe.....rioting in Paris, rioting in Sweden, the existence of politicians like Geert, father & daughter Le Pen, groups like the EDL, german skinheads; these don't have anything to do with gaza but rather they're a reflection of conditions in europe and the treatment of minorities in europe......but I can understand why europeans wouldn't want to face up to that reality

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    Don't be silly, there is no money in the cure, but there are millions/billions/gazillions of dollars "fighting" the terrorism we helped create. Not to mention crapping on civil liberties is justified when clowns like this one pop up
     
  20. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    We have a major problem with racism in Europe, and nobody would deny it. You seem to be under so misguded idea that we think it's all fluffy bunnies here. It's not and since the recession it's only got worse, but that does not change the fact that the rise of radicalised Islamic terrorist youth is fuelled by the middle east, and not Amsterdam SE. The reason that they do not go to Gaza is there is no way they can travel to Gaza, Egypt has stopped many European from entering Gaza.
     
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    The idea that we can keep terrorists out of the US is nonsense. There have been (remember the Oklahoma bombing, the Unabomber, Simbionese Liberation Front, the KKK), and always will be, malcontents who turn to violence. They are rare, and largely incompetent. On the grand scale of risks to our lives, they are low. Terrorists are winning because they have evoked a disproportionate response in terms of the human and financial resources we have devoted to fighting them. They have also provoked a disproportionate response in terms of abrogating hard-won civil liberties. For instance, there is now open talk among UK politicians of revoking the citizenship of anybody found to be a terrorist, in spite of a complete lack of any legal precedence that would allow that.

    Seriously, folks, we need to get a grip. Terrorists will take lives, but then again so will pollution, poverty, infectious disease, automobile accidents, poor diets, lack of exercise, drinking, smoking, etc. Almost all of us will die from one or more of these other causes and not terrorism.
     
  22. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    it's always easier to blame the results of local racism on something other than local racism....as you say, you've had a rise in european racism but you seem to fail to make the connection between that increase and the reaction to it among minorities who face the it every day

    they're not going to gaza because the fight against the apostate shi'ites isn't in gaza.....it's in iraq and syria (at the moment; maybe it'll be in your town soon :eek: )
     
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    Then why isn't your nickname Sadbunny, huh? HUH? :mad:
     
  24. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    Nobody has ever said that there is no problem with racism in Europe. But the racism is not the trigger for terrorism, if racism was the trigger for terrorism why don't blacks as a group take up terrorism. The group that uses terrorism is Islamic based, look at the underpants bomber, look at the attack on the British soldier in London, and all this as it's roots in the middle east.

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    Now you just being a meanie.:p
     
  25. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Agreed.

    I think the whole point is despite that, we shouldn't turn away from the values that we aspire to: freedom, liberty, justice, etc.
     

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