Don Jr's Trip to India - Does it Present a Problem?

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  1. samcraig macrumors P6

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    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...nger-bothering-to-conceal-his-corruption.html

    An opinion piece (two snips below) - but what about you - what is your opinion?

    The company and policy and government are completely separated,” Eric Trump assured the Washington Post last year. “We have built an unbelievable wall in between the two.”

    The key word there was “unbelievable.” The president has never been willing to expend much effort on maintaining such a facade. In the first weeks after his election, Trump invited Eric and Don Jr. to a policy meeting with tech executives, met with his Indian business partners, and allowed his D.C. hotel to begin courting the patronage of foreign diplomats. In the first year after his inauguration, he mixed politics and business in ever more blatant ways.

    But Don Jr.’s trip to India represents a kind of “coming-out party” for the Trumpist kleptocracy: According the the Washington Post, the manager of the president’s “blind trust” will travel to Mumbai this week to promote his family’s real-estate projects, sell access to himself for $38,000 a head, and give a foreign policy speech (ostensibly) on behalf of his father’s administration at a global business summit:

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    During the visit, the 40-year-old Trump Jr., executive vice president of the Trump Organization, will take a break from his private promotional tour to give an address on “Reshaping Indo-Pacific Ties: The New Era of Cooperation” at a global business summit on Friday evening, co-sponsored by the Economic Times newspaper. [Indian Prime Minister Narendra] Modi will also speak at the summit … Later this week, Trump Jr. will travel to Mumbai to open the demo unit at the golden-facade Trump Tower being built by the family development firm of Mangal Prabhat Lodha, a state legislator in Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party.

    To review: Donald Trump Jr. will be serving as a representative of both his father’s business and government during this week’s trip to India, and will be selling access to himself (and thus, ostensibly, to his father’s government) for roughly $40,000 a pop.
     
  2. mac_in_tosh macrumors 6502

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    Trump's presidency is one big conflict of interest and Congress, more specifically the GOP, does nothing about it.
     
  3. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    The level of corruption with this family is unprecedented in modern times, but his base doesn't care and Republicans in Congress certainly won't so anything about it, so nothing will become of it. It's genuinely shameful that we are allowing this to happen.
     
  4. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    So pretty much this...

     
  5. darksithpro macrumors 6502a

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    As long as Trump Jr. doesn't use tax payer dollars to travel, then I'm fine with it. He's a private citizen and in charge of the Trump organization. If he wants to go to a business meeting in India, that's his choice. If the Indian PM wants to speak with him, then that's his choice.
     
  6. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    Well it's a little sketch. "and give a foreign policy speech (ostensibly) on behalf of his father’s administration at a global business summit"

    Questionable at best/least. In all of the US, is Trump Jr really the best and most qualified person?
     
  7. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Except the leadership structure of the Trump organization is totally murky and we really have no idea whether Don Jr. is acting independently of his father as far as the business is concerned. We have nothing more than Trump Sr.'s unsubstantiated claim that he's not involved, but we have direct evidence that he has kept up an interest in the company. And, we also know for certain that Don Jr. is involved directly with his father on political and policy matters. The whole thing stinks to high heavens.
     
  8. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Corruption? Who cares about corruption? He's a private businessman!

    Before taking office, 45 pledged “no new deals will be done [by the Trump Organization] during my term(s) in office.”

    A couple days before taking office, 45 revised his pledge to say that the Trump org "will not enter into new foreign deals and will appoint an ethics adviser who must approve any new domestic deals in writing."

    The Trump org has done multiple foreign deals in 45's first year in office.
     
  9. mac_in_tosh macrumors 6502

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    But D.J. Trump is not a private citizen, he knows what his businesses are, as they were not put in a blind trust, and the fact that as president he could do things that would favorably impact those businesses represents a huge conflict of interest. He signs an executive order allowing more immigrants into the country to work at country clubs. His original travel ban didn't include any Moslem countries where he has business dealings. Everytime he goes to his golf club he enriches himself with what the government pays to the resort. The tax bill recently passed includes tax breaks for owners of golf courses. Etc. Etc.

    Also, I think it's naive to believe that Trump Jr. never discusses business with Donald. It's amazing how Trumpsters accept every shady thing this POTUS does but were so upset over allegations of corruption concerning the Clinton Foundation.
     
  10. GermanSuplex, Feb 20, 2018
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    Trump brags about ripping people off and does it in the open. This would be a huge issue for any previous president, but his base is ok with him ripping us off, so no, it won’t be an issue. As Trump would say “anyone would do this. But if they did, there’s nothing wrong with it. And if there’s something wrong with it, it doesn’t apply to me.”

    He’s probably still running his business too, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jr. is doing this at his old man’s request.
     
  11. mac_in_tosh macrumors 6502

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    I agree. But it doesn't matter if he actually is running the businesses. It's still a conflict of interest as he knows what those businesses are.
     

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