Donald Trump’s Other Campaign Foe: The ‘Lowest Form of Life’ News Media

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  1. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    It's not a good idea to make an enemy of the news media.
     
  2. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    It would never happen, but I I'd love to see a media blackout on Trump. Given his thirst for attention, it would drive him completely over the edge. Well, more than he is now
     
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    Trump must have missed that old saw about how it's not a good idea to make an enemy of anyone who buys ink by the barrel.

    Katy Tur's piece in Marie Claire is a pretty good read.

    The piece manages to have compressed --but not devalued-- several telling incidents about how Trump and his campaign have dealt with journalists calling it like they see it.

    Posting threats to journalists and even physically harassing them is not the smartest thing in the world to think of doing.

    Don't like what a reporter writes? Pen a letter to the editor.

    Or you know, Trump's campaign, such as it is, could try getting someone with some talent and experience to serve as press relations point person... instead of using goons and buffoons.


     
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    Katrina Pierson is a national treasure.
     
  5. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    I like that necklace she sometimes wears. Are those live rounds?
     
  6. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    He believes no press is bad press. And then he can criticize the bad press to get more press. I don't think he realizes that there is such a thing as bad press and that he often looks like the idiot he is because of incidents like the most recent ISIS comment.
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    You'd think they were pearls so she could clutch them every time she gets called on the carpet
     
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    It probably takes a devoted Twitter junkie to keep up with his latest comments on anything. I like the NYT to do its job and sort them out for me so I can read them secondhand instead of replying and getting banned by the real Donald Trump (android) or his staff (iPhone).

    I am almost wondering if it's worth the sub price sometimes. But two of my kin avail themselves of the share option for the Times, so I'm stuck, at least while it's paid up.
     
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    Huh? I thought Brietbart is pro Trump.
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    Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson: President Obama invaded Afghanistan — ‘That was Obama’s war’

    Appearing on CNN Saturday morning, Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson presented yet another unique take on history, telling host Victor Blackwell that President Barack Obama invaded Afghanistan.

    Fresh from defending Donald Trump supposed “sarcastic” remarks that Obama is the “founder” of ISIS, Pierson attempted to explain to Blackwell that Obama also took the U.S. into Afghanistan after pulling out of Iraq.

    “If you want to go way back, we can look at the troop surge. And after 2007, al Qaeda was essentially in ashes,” she explained. “It was Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who then destroyed the entire rollout by wanting to pull out early, announcing their plans, ignoring intelligence and that’s the reason why ISIS is a global issue and not a –”

    Blackwell then interrupted her, “Barack Obama in 2004, is that what you said?”

    “No,” she replied. “I said afterwards. After the surge when al Qaeda was in ashes. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton — remember we weren’t even in Afghanistan by this time. Barack Obama went into Afghanistan creating another problem. It was Hillary Clinton and her incidents in Libya. They armed the rebels and funded them.”

    A puzzled Blackwell then stopped Pierson again.

    “You’re saying Barack Obama took the country into Afghanistan post-2009. Is that what you’re saying?”

    Pierson paused before replying, “Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton — that was Obama’s war, yes.”

     
  10. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    When you have to explain that a statement is Sarcasm after defending it for days, it is not Sarcasm.
     
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    A block on Twitter too. He'd really lose it then.

    Treasure? Where? Better hide it or she might shoplift it!
     
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    Yah he must not have read this one. It contains at least a few quotes from some real people even he might have heard of.



     
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    Trump is on target calling out a media that is on overdrive; a media that has so far failed to derail all these 12 months of daily attack. Media = irrelevant; Media = angry.
     
  15. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    The media is angry? No - I think they love making their money while Trump implodes. You know who's faux angry? Trump. His "outrage" at the media is a joke. He loves it. Only people like you are angry and some faux injustice going on.

    Trump gets the attention he gets because of the things he says and does. It's that simple. He deserved every. single. "attack."

    Trump is the one who is irrelevant.
     
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    Just think, if Trump wins, I could see him make her the White House press secretary
     
  17. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    I can only imagine...
     
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    Get a grip, amigo: the media ignored Trump for a long time, apparently believing, as any sane person would believe, that he was a non starter once the primary elections actually got underway.

    When the media finally started reporting on the phenomena of Trump's campaign, he relished it, especially if the coverage was negative. Go back through his tweets if you have forgotten the sequence of events here. This is a guy who bans an outlet for bashing him and thinks nothing of then calling them up for a copy of the thing for his collection, especially if there is a photo of him in the piece or on the cover.

    Media are irrelevant to politicians? Bet they are rushing to write that one down.

    Media angry? Hell, Trump is the goose laying golden eggs for the media in 2016. They would kiss the hem of his robes if he were actually an emperor wearing some clothes.
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    Yeah, no :D -- Pierson probably couldn't distract the White House pressers from their duties to the Fourth Estate for very long. And anyway, she may have returned that jewelry on loan from Harry Winston.. or was that the NRA?

    JewelryOnLoanFromNRA?.jpg

    pic clipped from CNN via Politico back during primary season:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...-and-results/2016/04/pierson-trump-711-222145
     
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    A quote from that piece:

    Charles R. Black Jr., an influential Republican lobbyist supporting Mr. Trump, said the campaign was in a continuing struggle to tame him.

    “He has three or four good days and then makes another gaffe,” Mr. Black said. “Hopefully, he can have some more good days.”

    Of Mr. Trump’s advisers, Mr. Black said, “They think he is making progress in terms of being able to make set speeches and not take the bait on every attack somebody makes on him.”

    Good grief. Sounds like a kindergarten report card:

    Donny has made some remarkable progress this quarter. He no longer bites or kicks when angered, and manages to play nicely with others for part of each day during most of the week, on average. He seems much more willing to try to recite the alphabet than previously, and does not always lash out at other children when they tease him about something trivial. All in all we are convinced we can help him continue to grow accustomed to the demands of formal schooling, such as keeping his shirt on, and wearing shoes.


     
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    Failed to derail? Have you not been watching the poll numbers? Have you not see a change in Trump. First he slammed using teleprompters, but then started using them. Then when he stepped in the doo doo he started to refer to his gaffes as "jokes" and "sarcasm". Lately he has publicly announced that he had problems in Utah and obviously he is worried about Pennsylvania now too. You don't change things when your campaign is working. Obviously it is not. The train is already off the track.

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  21. FieldingMellish, Aug 14, 2016
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    The realities of intentional and self-celebrated and mutually congratulated media bias attacks deserves the rebuke.

    Not only is the bias conspicuous, media revels in it.

    And why all the revelry? Trump is too close to winning.

    This, while the media ignores recent discoveries, as mentioned by Dick Morris:

    "In another example, less well-publicized, the country of Algeria donated $400,000 to the Foundation just as Hillary Clinton was pressing, successfully, for completion of an arms deal with Algeria worth more than 100 million dollars."

    Lift any Little Rock, and you'll see lowest form of life Hillary flourishing underneath it.
     
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    Ryan Lizza has this in the New Yorker from Saturday (online, news section)

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    On Friday, a researcher with Gallup brought some much-needed data and clarity to this debate. Jonathan Rothwell, an economist who drew on eighty-seven thousand interviews in the organization’s polling database, expected to find that Trump’s strongest base of support existed in areas of America adversely affected by international free-trade agreements and lax immigration policy. He made a surprising discovery.

    “The results show mixed evidence that economic distress has motivated Trump support,” he writes. “His supporters are less educated and more likely to work in blue collar occupations, but they earn relative high household incomes, and living in areas more exposed to trade or immigration does not increase Trump support.” Rothwell adds that his results do not present a clear picture of the connection between social and economic hardship and support for Trump. The standard economic measures of income and employment status show that, if anything, more affluent Americans tend to favor Trump, even among white non-Hispanics. Surprisingly, there appears to be no link whatsoever between exposure to trade competition and support for nationalist policies in America, as embodied by the Trump campaign.

    So then what is it? Maybe the other thing.

    Rothwell, discussing what is known to social scientists as “contact theory,” essentially argues that living in overwhelmingly white enclaves increases one’s chances of being a racist, as “Limited interactions with racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, and college graduates may contribute to prejudicial stereotypes, political and cultural misunderstandings, and a general fear of rejection and not belonging.”

    If Rothwell is correct, his research complicates our understanding of why voters support the most extreme aspects of Trump’s nationalist policies. It means that simply improving economic conditions isn’t enough. The Trump voter, according to this research, is driven not by simple economic self-interest but by something deeper and more psychological. Rothwell’s view is much more in line with the argument that Trump voters are whites who feel that their privileged place in America is threatened by forces they don’t really understand. If this is true, they can’t simply be won over by getting median wages raised or by bringing the local factory back from Mexico.
    Lizza's wrap:

    This week, Trump’s immaturity and recklessness made it more likely that he will be defeated in November. But his supporters will remain, and, going forward, it will take a more sophisticated and nuanced Republican leadership to figure out an agenda that speaks to their legitimate demands without exploiting their worst fears.
    Guess that lets off Priebus and McConnell for sure, Ryan has learned how to pivot, so he's a possibility if he can keep his Speakership job and also rediscover his personal integrity. It's possible those two tasks are mutually exclusive.

    One thing Lizza mentioned in passing that I had not even realized Trump had said:

    In an interview on Fox News, he noted,“I don’t
    know that we need to get out the vote.”
    OK then. Cancel the ground ops. Pass the word.
     
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