Donald Trump: Bully-in-Chief

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  1. jpietrzak8 macrumors 65816

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    This week, several different attacks have been made on Trump's legitimacy as President. None of them have been significant (at least so far as I can tell); however, Trump sure thinks they are significant. Two attacks, one by a Clinton supporter, another by Democratic House Representative John Lewis, have prompted him to respond on twitter:

    "What are Hillary Clinton's people complaining about with respect to the F.B.I. Based on the information they had she should never....."

    "have been allowed to run - guilty as hell. They were VERY nice to her. She lost because she campaigned in the wrong states - no enthusiasm!"

    "Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart (not to......"

    "mention crime infested) rather than falsely complaining about the election results. All talk, talk, talk - no action or results. Sad!"

    "Congressman John Lewis should finally focus on the burning and crime infested inner-cities of the U.S. I can use all the help I can get!"

    Let us take note here, that not once does Trump ever dispute what his critics are saying about him. No, his response is to state unequivocally that Clinton is guilty of a crime, and that Atlanta is burning to the ground.

    This is Trump's way: if someone challenges you, you raise the stakes and hit them right back. Today, Trump's only tool is to use Twitter against these people; but in just a few days, he'll have the power of the entire executive branch to wield against his enemies. We'll have to see just how long he can keep himself from taking full advantage of that power...
     
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    It might work that way with manga but this is the real world... people and organizations make statements about trump and trump responds. Trump makes statements about people and organizations and they respond.

    Your manga eyes somehow envision common everyday back and forth like a a clash of titans... every word every action is somehow earth shattering.

    hyper visualized and over exclaimed. If you consider statements as attacks you are lost.
     
  3. jpietrzak8 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Huh. Actually, it's the world of manga where every statement requires an immediate and overwhelming response; that's drama!

    In the real world, real politicians act in a manner to solve problems and smooth over disputes; this is how a people are governed, to work together in a manner to move the group forward. Manga doesn't work like this, because it is boring! :) But it gets the job done.

    Trump, I think, has no interest in the business of government. He spends zero effort trying to solve problems or smooth over disputes. No, he spends all his time trying to inflame problems or increase disputes.

    He's being a bully.
     
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    He is 70 years old. He has solved many problems and caused many problems. For the most part he is extremely successful in running any type of operation. You can point out his failures while others point out his successses. Enjoy that battle.

    He has not yet been inaugurated as an official politician, Yet you have already manga'd him under the bus. According to you he has already started a dozen nuclear wars and killed millions...
     
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    Outside of real estate, what other Trump business ventures have been successful?
     
  6. tunerX, Jan 14, 2017
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    To name one... maybe it could be the apprentice. I think he made 300+ million with that franchise and lead-offs.

    I forgot... trump is broke. Everything he has ever done has lead to bankruptcy. Oh wait... just use google and find out the different business ventures trump has started and failed at or started and succeeded at. He is actually a billionaire and that doesn't happen by luck or accident.

    If your goal is to use gotcha tactics... you need to up your game.

    Enjoy your top shelf, top tier, self proclaimed education.
     
  7. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Well, at least Melania will have plenty of work to keep her busy with her anti-bullying efforts. :D
     
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    if Trump wanted to say something about John Lewis he could have been much smarter about it and taken the high road. He could have said he has great respect for Lewis; it's unfortunate that he has chosen not to attend the inauguration but it's time to put the election behind us and come together as a nation. Don't attack Lewis as all talk and no action and don't imply that because he's a black congressman he must be from a district that's failing and full of crime (he's not). On Friday Democrats were upset with Lewis because they felt he was forcing them to defend Trump. All that changed on Saturday with Trump's stupid Twitter tirade. It might have made his base feel good but it was a stupid thing to do.
     
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    Like how Trump focusses on his?
     
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    Trump should focus on his job.
     
  12. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    Irony is dead in Trump land.
     
  13. R.Perez macrumors 6502

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    Do you know what would happen to the global economy if it declared bankruptcy as many times as Trump has? Let's not forget he inherited a multi-million dollar fortune at the same time.
     
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    Do you know that the bankruptcies trump declared were for independent business units under the trump brand and not trump inc as a whole? Maybe you should spend more time at your top shelf school learning bankruptcy law and how it is applied to business conglomerations.
     
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    So what? How is this any different than how any person here would respond to an attack or challenge?
     
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    Then how did he use the less on his taxes?
     
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    By following the law and using tax regulations and articles of incorporation to benefit the trump brand.
     
  18. jpietrzak8 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Actually, many of the folks here respond to attack or challenge by assessing the challenge logically, and then thoughtfully providing a rebuttal against the main points of the attack (often with references to sources backing up the rebuttal). It's one of the reasons I enjoy this forum; engaging successfully in discussion here requires some thinking, rather than simple mindless name-calling.

    I have noticed that in Trump's tweets, he never addresses the criticisms brought up against him. Never. No, he instead complains that the person who leveled the complaint is somehow unqualified or incompetent. It's as if he doesn't have time (or perhaps the ability?) to even understand what is being said about him...
     
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    or thats its true so discreet and hope they forget?
     
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    Exactly. And they were reorganizations not liquidations. Huge difference (see airline bankruptcies), but the uneducated yet know-it-all left wing nuts just hear the word bankruptcy and they instantly assume the businesses closed. They didn't.
     
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    No they did not but people lost a lot of money over it and trump got out of paying his bills. Trump is good at not paying his bills.
     
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    I love that Tgara and Tuner think they that had a "gotcha" moment there. Pathetic.
     
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    Top shelf education, or uneducated? I'm confused. Which is the insult du jour?
     

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