Donald Trump...Creepy Uncle

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macrumors Penryn
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What a disgusting and vile man child.



A former Miss New Hampshire told BuzzFeed News last spring that Donald Trump strolled through the dressing rooms backstage at the 2000 Miss USA pageant and stared at the naked contestants.

In May, his campaign issued a blanket denial, calling Bridget Sullivan’s story and those of several other beauty queens “totally false.”

But Sullivan’s story has now received support from an unexpected source: Trump himself. The presidential candidate, who owned the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants until last year, told Howard Stern in 2005 that he made a habit of busting into the dressing rooms even when the contestants were not dressed.

“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,” Trump told Stern in recordings released Saturday by CNN. “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it…. ‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarrison/we-were-all-naked-when-donald-trump-walked-in?utm_term=.en5AJlERBP#.whlnbOKQ1a
 

thermodynamic

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Even Ben Franklin went to brothels (e.g. Hellfire Club) and had slaves and didn't graduate school and had done lots of other fascinating things so why are so many people complaining only 240+ years later??

Before anyone has a tantrum at me, do some research - fringe and MSM sites often have much to cite. Surprised even me...

Then go get a time machine and berate him since I had nothing to do with his life.

Thank you.
 

MadeTheSwitch

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Even Ben Franklin went to brothels (e.g. Hellfire Club) and had slaves and didn't graduate school and had done lots of other fascinating things so why are so many people complaining only 240+ years later??

Before anyone has a tantrum at me, do some research - fringe and MSM sites often have much to cite. Surprised even me...

Then go get a time machine and berate him since I had nothing to do with his life.

Thank you.
Why do you keep bringing up Ben Franklin? Is he on this year's ballot?
 

shinji

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Even Ben Franklin went to brothels (e.g. Hellfire Club) and had slaves and didn't graduate school and had done lots of other fascinating things so why are so many people complaining only 240+ years later??

Before anyone has a tantrum at me, do some research - fringe and MSM sites often have much to cite. Surprised even me...

Then go get a time machine and berate him since I had nothing to do with his life.

Thank you.
Alright, getting in my time machine to berate Ben Franklin because you're off limits. BRB.
 
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Even Ben Franklin went to brothels (e.g. Hellfire Club) and had slaves and didn't graduate school and had done lots of other fascinating things so why are so many people complaining only 240+ years later??

Before anyone has a tantrum at me, do some research - fringe and MSM sites often have much to cite. Surprised even me...

Then go get a time machine and berate him since I had nothing to do with his life.

Thank you.
Yes, and?

I'm not sure why you insist on bringing up Benjamin Franklin as though that proves a point. (And I write as someone who is something of aran of Benjamin Franklin, whom I view as one of the most attractive of the American Founding Fathers).

Anyway, it proves nothing other than that an extraordinarily progressive man by the standards of the 1770s, and 1780s, had a few blind spots and enjoyed what we term the 'sins of the flesh'.

He also enjoyed his drink (do, please bear in mind your society - uniquely in what is now called the First World passed Prohibition), and frankly indulged his scientific enquiries and his thoroughly engaging secular mindset (would a man with such a frank and appealing scepticism on matters religious quite fns such favour in your judgmental society these days?)

Anyway, in the era when this happened neither women nor (black) slaves had right, and few - even in the newly created political system that became the US - founded on all of these (incomplete) democratic principles - didn't believe that such rights should be extended to women or people of colour who were slaves.

Indeed, outside the newly born US, most white males lacked rights, too, come to think of it.

However, this is not 1780, and I am not going to judge Ben Franklin - whom I genuinely like - by the standards of today. After all, he is not seeking public office today.

But, we are not living in 1770, or 1780. Women and people of colour have been admitted to the human race - in law - and now enjoy basic civic, and human rights.

And, this means that such individuals now can demand that their consent be sought before engaging in sexual relationships. A bit of respect. You know, consent is entirely possible, this is not - or ought not to be - rocket science: Most people consider that it is stuff to do with wooing, winning, a bit of charm, some compliments, candle lit dinners, soft music, shared laughter, mutual enjoyment.

What it is not about is 'grabbing' at someone's private parts and exulting that your position in life means that you can get away with this with impunity.
 
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Even Ben Franklin went to brothels
For better or for worse, prostitution is officially legal in one state of the puritanical U.S., and, roughly 8 countries in Europe. I'm not sure how any of this ties together with anything?

and had slaves
And, was also President of the Pennsylvania Abolition Society ca. 1786, and, petitioned Congress in 1790 to abolish slavery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Abolition_Society



http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/franklin/

Franklin did not publicly speak out against slavery until very late in his life. As a young man he owned slaves, and he carried advertisements for the sale of slaves in his newspaper, the Pennsylvania Gazette. At the same time, however, he published numerous Quaker pamphlets against slavery and condemned the practice of slavery in his private correspondence. It was after the ratification of the United States Constitution that he became an outspoken opponent of slavery. In 1789 he wrote and published several essays supporting the abolition of slavery and his last public act was to send to Congress a petition on behalf of the Society asking for the abolition of slavery and an end to the slave trade. The petition, signed on February 3, 1790, asked the first Congress, then meeting in New York City, to "devise means for removing the Inconsistency from the Character of the American People," and to "promote mercy and justice toward this distressed Race."
and didn't graduate school and had done lots of other fascinating things so why are so many people complaining only 240+ years later??

Before anyone has a tantrum at me, do some research - fringe and MSM sites often have much to cite. Surprised even me....
Perhaps you have a link regarding what you refer to?

Anyway, it proves nothing other than that an extraordinarily progressive man by the standards of the 1770s, and 1780s, had a few blind spots
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However, this is not 1780, and I am not going to judge Ben Franklin - whom I genuinely like - by the standards of today. After all, he is not seeking public office today.
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But, we are not living in 1770, or 1780. Women and people of colour have been admitted to the human race - in law - and now enjoy basic civic, and human rights.
Agree 100%. But, even by the standards of today, Franklin was far ahead of today's ALT-RIGHT. And, despite being a celebrity in his own time, is still quite interesting to read about today. Much more interesting, I dare say, than today's celebrities will be in 240+ years.
 
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