Donald Trump Named Time Magazine's Person Of The Year

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  1. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    The year they got it wrong was 2001. They should have had the balls to give it to Osama Bin Laden. He literally changed the world.

    The title is not an accolade. It's a reflection of the influence -- for good or evil -- of the person.
     
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    Because Time magazine has such a great track record of picking the "Man" of the year.

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    Did Bin Laden change the world?

    Seems to me we're all still living in the same world.
     
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    Funny they still take a dig at him on the cover saying "Divided States of America" when all he has been doing since elected is mention ALL Americans.
     
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    Absolutely, he did.
     
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    Especially for the close to 30,000 victims and Soldiers that fought in Afghanistan and their families.:(
     
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    Really, what changed?

    Some super power invaded Afghanistan, we invaded Iraq, again?
     
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    This thread is going to be wonderful!

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    Yea he's about the best pick for '16
     
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    Been to an Airport lately? Heard of a little tiny thing of NSA spy program called PRISM? Maybe you heard of a little piece of legislation called the PATRIOT Act?
     
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    So a marked escalation of Government control, like that's not in the nature of Government?
     
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    He changed how we perceive the world.
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    In retrospective, you're probably right. On the other hand I can also understand their fears. Not an easy call.
     
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    Changed how you perceive the world, maybe, but what we did in response was and is the same old tune.

    Since when did an attack bring about a spontaneous outbreak of peace?
     
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    Dude. Patriot Act.
    That's enough of a shift in mentality for me.
    Add it to Iraqi invasion, Afghanistan, middle east collapse, ISIS etc.
    They're all direct consequences of that horrible day. Bin Laden certainly didn't expect it, but he changed the world nonetheless.
     
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    You're aware the the "Patriot Act" was in the wings before 9/11?

    Like I said before, we invaded Iraq before, we had heavy sanctions on them for decades, and a no-fly zone, both hostile acts. We were just weakening them for the, eventual, invasion.

    Shocking, a world power invaded Afghanistan, that must have never happened before, either.

     
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    A good pick and while it was a very predictable outcome (hasn't it been the US President Elect of that year for quite a long Time now?), I think that the entire election easily justifies the decision.

    Why Time chose Donald Trump as Person of the Year in 2016

    "For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year"
     
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    It's just so much more than that, I don't even know where to start. Maybe there are a few people out there that will never feel the difference, but the entire world changed, and like the domino effect. Bush's choices led to Obama which led to Trump. Without 9/11 what would the middle east look like today. There is no way to know what the USA or the rest of the world would look like today if 9/11 didn't happen, but I know I hate air travel since 9/11 and before it I didn't mind one bit.
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    LOL How has that worked out for Germany?!?!
     
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    I'm not sure how it's possible to argue that Osama bin Laden is, frankly, anything other than the Person of this Century So Far.

    The 9/11 attacks were superbly conceived and executed. They fed directly into the narrative that the world is a dangerous place and only government can protect you. Which led directly to all kinds of limitations on every day life. Most recently, for example, in the UK is the horrifyingly Orwellian Investigatory Powers Act that requires ISPs to keep a record of every domain that everyone in the UK visits.

    It totally side-tracked UK prime minster Tony Blair who made it his number one priority to cosy up to George Bush. As a result he is not only one of the greatest disappointments in terms of the hope we all had of what he'd achieve in office, he is now universally reviled by the British people to the extent that he can't even show up to a book signing for fear of civil unrest.

    It was a significant help in getting George W. Bush re-elected, with his spurious "don't change horses in midstream" argument. And that arguably led directly to the election of Barack Obama.

    The world would be a vastly different place were it not for 9/11.
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    That's not a dig at Trump. It's a reflection of the situation in the US right now. It is a deeply divided country.
     
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    Exactly. The ones dividing the country ironically are it's people, not him.
     
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    Maybe ya'll are just too young to remember, or you haven't studied enough history.

    History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes.

    The world is in the same place it was before 9/11, third rock from the sun.
     
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    Who's we? You and your dog? :D
     
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    Lol I voted no on their online poll. Interestingly among the other candidates (except India's PM Modi), Trump had the most 'yes votes' and a large amount of 'no votes'. Modi was the only person in the online poll that had the most 'yes' votes and the least 'no' votes.
     
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    When were you born?
     
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    Me, and all the other sheeple with a normalcy bias.

    This too shall pass.
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    Long enough ago to have studied my history.
     

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