Donald Trump's [Gay] Advocate Interview From 2000 Where He Defends LGBTQ

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    Donald Trump's Advocate Interview Where He Defends Gays, Mexicans

    http://www.advocate.com/election/20...cate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans

    Why should gays and lesbians be interested in you as a presidential candidate?
    I grew up in New York City, a town with different races, religions, and peoples. It breeds tolerance. In all truth, I don’t care whether or not a person is gay. I judge people based on their capability, honesty, and merit. Being in the entertainment business — that is, owning casinos and … several large beauty pageants — I’ve worked with many gay people. I have met some tough, talented, capable, terrific people. Their lifestyle is of no interest to me.

    Would we see gay people in a Trump administration?
    I would want the best and brightest. Sexual orientation would be meaningless. I’m looking for brains and experience. If the best person for the job happens to be gay, I would certainly appoint them. One of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace, good people don't go into government. I’d want to change that.

    What would you do to combat antigay prejudice?
    I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation. But amending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans — it’s only fair. I actually suggested this first, and now I see [Democratic presidential candidate] Bill Bradley has jumped on the bandwagon and is claiming the idea as his own. [A bill to amend the Civil Rights Act that would have included protections on the basis of sexual orientation was first introduced in the 1970s. — Ed.] Let me tell you something. Bradley is as phony as a $20 Rolex. He says the president ought to have big ideas. His last big idea — the 1986 [Tax Reform Act] — caused a recession and cost thousands of people their jobs. This guy destroyed the real estate industry, and he tanked the S&Ls. It was a disaster. Bradley walked out of the Senate like he was some kind of statesman declaring that “politics is broken.” The truth is, the voters were going to dump him in New Jersey. He walked away. Now he poses as some kind of outsider. What a joke. Bradley was a member of the Senate Finance Committee and a longtime part of Washington establishment. When I was $900 million and my companies were $9 billion in debt, I didn’t walk away. While others were declaring bankruptcy, I clawed my way back. My businesses are now bigger and better than ever.

    Are your gay employees allowed to be out?
    Everyone makes a personal choice. Look, it just doesn’t matter to me. I try to treat everybody equal and fairly. Maybe that's why I can count men like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, and Sammy Sosa as my friends. When you hang with people who are different from you, you get an appreciation for other cultures.

    What are your thoughts on gay marriage?
    I think the institution of marriage should be between a man and a woman. I do favor a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. I think it’s important for gay couples who are committed to each other to not be hassled when it comes to inheritance, insurance benefits, and other simple everyday rights.

    Do you think gay people should be allowed to serve in the military?
    Yes, if a gay person can be a doctor or a lawyer or a teacher or take another position of responsibility, why can't they serve this country in the military? “Don’t ask, don’t tell” has clearly failed. Gay people serve effectively in the military in a number of European countries. There is no reason why they can’t serve in the United States. Frankly, the state of our military is a wreck. Military pay is a joke, military benefits are ridiculous, and we can’t attract the kind of quality people we need to have an effective fighting force. The Pentagon is wasting millions on weapons they don’t need instead of focusing on the military needs in the changing world situation. The truth is, our nation defense is in the weakest state since Pearl Harbor. I favor a total reorganization of all branches of our military, and I would address the gay question more forthrightly within that reorganization.

    If you wanted to accomplish four things as president, what would they be?
    My number 1 goal would be to make our economy boom. My plan to impose a onetime net worth tax of 14.25% on the superwealthy, when combined with our current projected surpluses, will raise enough to pay off the national debt. That would save us $200 billion a year in interest. I’d use half the savings to cut taxes for the middle class. I’d use the other half to fund Social Security and finance a new health care system.

    Second, I’d like to end the rip-off of America by our allies. We pay for their defense, and they screw us with their trade policies. I would appoint myself U.S. trade representative and conduct the negotiations with our major trading partners myself — and I guarantee you the rip-off of America would end.

    Third, I would press for universal health care. It’s ridiculous that the richest country on Earth can’t provide first-rate health care for our people. I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes. I’d strictly regulate the pharmaceutical firms to end these 500% profits on drugs that are cheap to produce. I like the Canadian system, although their health care is not the best. If you combine their system with the quality of our health care, we could provide cradle-to-grave health care for everyone.

    Last, I’d like to restore the spirit of America. I don't think we’ve had the American spirit much in recent years. The last leader to inspire confidence and build the American spirit was Ronald Reagan. I don’t agree with everything he did, but I agree with a lot — and I have to admit, I liked his style. I also want to see a greater atmosphere of tolerance. The dragging death of James Byrd in Texas or the murder of Matthew Shepard in Wyoming is a national disgrace. We must have a more tolerant society.

    How did you feel when you heard about the Shepard murder?
    It turned my stomach. I have a son who is about the same age as Matthew Shepard and is a student at Wharton. The idea somebody would beat a young man to death just because he is different is almost hard to fathom. I hope that the boy’s death is not in vain and that the public revulsion about this case can be harnessed in a way that prevents this kind of hideous crime from happening again.

    Does that mean you’d support hate-crimes legislation?
    Absolutely. This is one of my great disappointments with George W. Bush. He had the opportunity in Texas to show national leadership by passing a hate-crimes bill but didn’t — presumably from pressure form the Christian right. When somebody is victimized because of their ethnicity, the color of their skin, or their sexual orientation, that must carry a harsh penalty.

    Bush had refused to meet with the Log Cabin Republicans. Would you meet with groups advocating gay rights, such as the Human Rights Campaign?
    If I decide to run, I would meet with any law-abiding group representing legitimate public interests. I remember when Bob Dole refused a campaign contribution from the Log Cabin Republicans in order to pander to the religious right — a big mistake. Now I think Governor Bush is making the same mistake. If I run, my campaign would be inclusive, and I would reach out to everyone.

    Do you think you can win?
    Maybe not. I believe in straight talk. Maybe I’m too blunt for politics, but I’m not about to change. Unlike the rest of the people running, I’m not some pol trying to top out his resume. I don’t need the job to feel good about myself. In fact, I feel pretty good right now. But I guarantee you this. If I do run, it won’t be boring.

    Alexander is a political columnist for Bloomberg News. He has contributed to Rolling Stone, Mirabella,and The New York Times Magazine.​
     
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    Interestingly enough, he hasn't strayed too much from then until now.

    Nailed it
     
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    Are your gay employees allowed to be out? Dodges question. Married? No, I believe in the institution!

    Enough said.
     
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    Are your gay employees allowed to be out?
    Everyone makes a personal choice. Look, it just doesn’t matter to me. I try to treat everybody equal and fairly. Maybe that's why I can count men like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, and Sammy Sosa as my friends. When you hang with people who are different from you, you get an appreciation for other cultures.​

    It is their choice, it doesn’t matter to me what their choice is.

    What are your thoughts on gay marriage?
    I think the institution of marriage should be between a man and a woman. I do favor a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. I think it’s important for gay couples who are committed to each other to not be hassled when it comes to inheritance, insurance benefits, and other simple everyday rights.​

    Gay couples should have the same rights as straight couples.
     
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    And now that the Supreme Court has ruled that gays can married, he's threatening to appoint judges who'll overturn gay marriage......why would LGBTQ voters ever consider voting for such a candidate? I hope the answer isn't "because he's such a liar and untrustworthy that there's some chance he might not do what he says he's going to do" :p

    unfortunately he's become more anti-LGBTQ as the years have gone by
     
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    I don't keep up on all things Trump, but what sources and proof do you have indicating he has become more "more anti-LGBT". Leave off the the Q. It's superfluous.
     
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    It is possible he would be anti-LGBTQ, I would say he’s pandering to the religious right for votes.
     
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    his current position on appointing judges to overturn the recent supreme court ruling allowing gay marriage speaks for itself.......politicians ranging from Ron Paul to Hillary have flip flopped on the issue and now accept gay marriage, but Trump is pushing an anti-gay marriage agenda

    of course if you want to argue that he's always been anti-LGBTQ, then perhaps the "more" wouldn't be accurate

    I think you'll have a hard time convincing LGBTQ voters that it's worth the risk.......as your OP shows, he's consistently spoken against gay marriage over the years
     
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    I don't think Trump is anti-LGBT. Though his recent moves towards that community post-Orlando do come across as incredibly pandering.
     
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    “How in the world can I take offense at being a great fan, and the greatest!?”​

     
  12. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    I mostly agree with him. This isn't about him, it's about Trump.
     
  13. APlotdevice, Jun 20, 2016
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    True. It's almost like his insane ramblings are really just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that he's acting like any other politician.
     
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    Oh, the contortions you make to support the other Candidate for president Jess13. I get the feeling Hillary doesn't do it for you...
     
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    ****face Von Clownstick, friend of the gays.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miche...mp-dangerous-to-lgbt-equality_b_10396552.html
     
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    So what Trump brought up the African American? That sticks it directly in the eye of the Left, for whom racial disharmony is a Democratic specialty and perpetually top of mind.

    And who cares about what Trump said or did back then and now? Much more important than sideshow issues for the single-issue voters are those issues that affect American in its entirety. Safety, jobs, economy, language, culture, borders.
     
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    I don't think Trump is a lot of what he says he is, but he's still saying it to appease a demographic that DOES believe it. No thanks. My vote is one against Trump.
     
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    So wait....you agree that it's possible he would be anti-lgbtq? So what's with the multiple post by you on this subject trying to paint him as a friend to the gays then?
     
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    I see little that's wrong with all that. It's not the most recent of articles but I didn't dislike what I read.
     
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    That really shows his integrity...that's not to say that Hillary necessarily has some (I know you'll go to this point since it's a reflex so I'll try to get it out of the way), but it undermines the argument that Trump "tells it like it is". Lmao. What a crock of ****.

    Talking like a straight racist isn't "telling it like it is". But to racist people it is. (not saying you are Jess)
     

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