Drinks after work are unfair on mothers, Jeremy Corbyn claims

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  1. steve23094 macrumors 68000

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...k-are-unfair-on-mothers-jeremy-corbyn-claims/

    I just find it incredibly amusing when Jeremy and his colleagues finished for the day they followed up with a drinks party. Seriously?!? Didn't any of his advisors see the irony?
     
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    The best part was " it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got". Newsflash Jeremy, many women don't have children.
     
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    Heaven forbid a politician gets between a Britain and their beer (or beaujolais if you're that way inclined).
     
  4. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    I'm not sure why this is headline news, it was made as part of a comment about improving working conditions for women, not as a "we should ban after work drinks comment"

    The smears against Corbyn by the media are truly desperate and the Torygraph seem to be leading the charge.
     
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    Maybe. But he did say it. What do you think of the policy?
     
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    What was his actual wording? The Telegraph seem to neglect that from the article, and considering their long history of whipping up anti Labour furore with misrepresentation and downright obfuscation, its not implausible that the notion of Corbyn wanting to ban after works drinks is totally b*****cks.
     
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    Launching his manifesto for women, the Labour leader said: ‘Early evening socialisation benefits men who don’t feel the need to be at home looking after their children, and it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got.’

    http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/corby...-work-drinks-for-quite-sexist-reason-6105449/

    If there were cameras at the event we will probably see some footage of this tonight.

    But I do wonder, let's assume he did say it (which is looking highly likely), would you support this policy?
     
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    What is the alternative to "early evening socialisation" anyway, having work drinks at 10pm or the weekend?
     
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    That mentions absolutely nothing about banning after works drinks.

    No I wouldn't. But the point is, I don't believe he's said it, until I see footage. It wouldn't be the first time the Torygraph and the Metro have frankly outright lied about what he's said, and they're the two main papers who seem to be reporting he wants to ban after works drinks (I imagine they're own by the same publishing house).
     
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    That would be a very silly policy. If the woman has a partner of any kind, they should be able to cover sometimes (actually they should cover for each other as necessary). Single parents will get hit by this kind of thing regardless, but their bosses and coworkers should be willing to show some compassion there.

    I'll never understand why it's always pandering (not this, they link to a number of other things, so I'm a little off topic). Counting parliamentary seats is similar to looking at female representation in Congress. It's a role that's beyond what many people will achieve in their careers and doesn't serve as any indicator whether the average woman in that field will encounter discrimination.
     
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    Getting p*ssed in the park on White Lightning?
     
  12. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Plus it would be unenforceable.
     
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    The Wife: Hey, tomorrow is Sven's last day in the office so we're going out for drinks after work.
    Me: No worries, I'll get the kids on my way home. Want me to keep them up so you can say goodnight?
    The Wife: Chances are it'll be a late one, so I would't bother.

    *Scratches Head*

    What century is everyone living in these days?
     
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    Mines a bit more:

    The Cat: "Meow"
    Me: "I'm off out tonight, should be back in the morning, but maybe gone for a couple of days, Ill get someone to come and feed you if I can't make it home"
    The Cat: "Meow"
     
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    I'll admit the current quotes available don't include the word 'ban', but his criticism of the practice is clear.

    He needs better speech writers, I would have thought it obvious this is the one section the media would pick up on. That's what the media does, look for sound bites. You just have to make sure you give them a good one.

    Politician's speeches are written by sycophants. I would have thought it wise to always have them proof read by someone that hates you. Then this stuff would get caught, instead of always assuming the best possible interpretation of a comment.

    And as everyone has pointed out, the statement itself is sexist and it's unenforceable. It's all deliciously amusing.
     
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    No. You have saki bombs at lunch in the conference room.
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    This implies that a woman had to be married or get approval to go out. You sexist!

    She don't need no man!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Drinks after work is fine, but only as a social event. the moment any business is conducted it is discriminatory against the people who cannot be there (those who have care-giving commitments, be they male or female, some religious people, and possibly some disabled people).

    Core working hours should be exactly that, no more, no less.
     
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    And in the same vein I think you should be allowed to insult your boss whilst drunk without fear of reprisal. As long as it's outside core working hours. :cool:
     
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    Devil's advocate here: Even if they are only social, there is bonding that goes on and if someone is not there, they don't bond with the group.
     
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    There is also bonding that happens in the ladies room. Go in there so you don't miss anything.
     
  21. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    In the USA you can. Just say you identify as a woman and you are free to join them.
     
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    On paper it's supposed to work that way. In reality....
     
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    You could say the same about parents talking about their children.
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    Is it discriminatory to do work on a Friday if you have part time staff that don't work Friday?
     
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    Yes. Sit at your desk quietly until Monday when everyone is there. Also, no work can happen when someone calls in sick. It is discriminatory towards the "Differently Immuned"
     
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    I wonder is satire more or less biting when it become difficult to differentiate between it and reality.
     

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