In PSM, Aug 2005, issue 100 - page 11: So, there is some hope of getting a game that looks this good! Also, in Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II, go to the commentary. The developers state that the Hoth stage 1st ran at 5 to 10fps (or some really low number). Meaning, horrible fps in the early parts of a game's developement CAN be fixed and improved. And finally; I am eating crow. I 1st jumped on the bang wagon of Sony bashing when the rumors flew about the Killzone footage. I even made a thread about it. I was wrong about it being fake - kinda, sorta. ::cuts himself a big piece of crow:: Anyone have any ketchup?