El Capitan: Does this mark the death of OS X as a serious OS?

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by B-Eugen, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. B-Eugen macrumors member

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    Over the years we've seen numerous features, both serious and trivial, removed from OS X in what seems an effort to "dumb down" the operating system. For example, the spinning time machine icon used to spin when backing up at least giving a warning to a user that a backup is occurring so maybe now is not the time to shut down your system. The removal of expose and the half hearted attempts to bring it back are, to say the least inferior.

    Yesterday I discovered an actual show stopper: You can no longer adjust the display properly. You used to be able to adjust color levels, contrast, etc. etc. but now, in System Preferences->Displays, you get basically an "idiot box" approach to display adjustment where you can adjust the contrast of your screen and set the native white point, and that's it.

    Why is this a show stopper? Because not all displays are alike and how they're set up by each user may vary widely. For online image work we used to have about 20 different display profiles to emulate various displays and settings so we could verify that our work is presented in a decent fashion to a user. The ability to do this is now gone. I suspect that any photographer using OS X will find this problem not kind of serious, but an actual show stopper, as in "I can't use this for professional work any longer."

    As an FYI I was able to overcome this by copying profiles generated in Mavericks onto an El Capitan unit and it looks like it works, but there's no way to adjust anything. In other words, if you do this sort of work, all you need to do is log into a previous release of OS X, generated color profiles, then copy them to an El Capitan partition, then reboot and use El Capitan. This of course begs the question, "Why use El Capitan at all?"

    The dumbing down of OS X has finally gone too far. I actually can't use this for real work. Combine that with the inability to adjust that bad joke known as translucency to prevent the obvious visual problems it causes some users and I'd have to say the degradation of the OS continues.
     
  2. KALLT macrumors 601

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    What exactly is different about the display calibration? Looks the same to me.
     
  3. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    Maybe you can upload some screen shots? Perhaps Color calibration has been moved and you simply need to search for it?

    Typing "calibration" into the system preferences search box could reveal something. Or, it's yet another setting that needs to be selected while holding down the option key-- akin to the Retina screen resolution "Larger Text"/"More Space" dichotomy.
     
  4. /V\acpower macrumors 6502a

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    FYI, when Time Machine is doing a backup the icon change to "two arrows".
     
  5. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    Yes, there's no adjustments available in the Display Calibrator Assistant, other than setting the white point.
    No advanced settings there at all (unless I am missing something)
    That _might_ not be enough adjustment for some folks...
     
  6. navaira macrumors 68040

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    Great usability, much visible to people with less-than perfect eyes, such wow.

    (I understand changing the icon to a non-animated one extends the life of a Macbook battery by at least 30 seconds, but I'm on a desktop and can't switch it back on.)
     
  7. KALLT macrumors 601

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    I’m pretty sure that this was not at all a reason for it. I personally find passive animations very distracting. I don’t need to be reminded every hour that my system is making a backup or doing maintenance. It’s alright to know that it does when I intend to do something that it affects, like a reboot, so that I know that something is going on.
     
  8. leman macrumors 604

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    Well, stuff changes. At the same time we get tons of new serious features like fully scriptable OS, filesystem level tags, standard extensions mechanisms, instant sharing of application state over multiple computers, more powerful and convenient standard apps. The OS is certainly not dumbed down just because you don't seem to like some of the new things. And besides, a person who says stuff like 'giving a warning to a user that a backup is occurring so maybe now is not the time to shut down your system' is certainly not someone who should be judging what is serious and what is not :rolleyes:

    Works at my machine it always used to. BTW, if you are referring to the fact that the Calibrate utility opens the simplified calibration wizard per default, try holding the option key when you click the Calibrate button.
     
  9. navaira macrumors 68040

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    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/23/#time-machine

    Apple is so dedicated to saving energy in Mavericks that it has replaced Time Machine’s animated clock-spinning-backwards menu bar icon with a static icon. (An extra arrowhead now appears on the clock icon’s outline when a backup is in progress.) As clever as the animation was, Apple has apparently decided it’s not worth waking the CPU multiple times a second to redraw the menu bar icon whenever Time Machine is running. Energy conservation leads to tough choices. Apple is definitely walking the walk in Mavericks.

    (Obviously Siracusa could be wrong. Still, I'd welcome a chance to select whether I want a spinning icon or not.)
     
  10. MacBird macrumors 6502

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    If color accuracy is important to you, you might consider getting a device such as i1 or Spyder to calibrate the monitor properly. The manual options in El Cap and previous versions of OS X are just not accurate enough.
     
  11. KALLT macrumors 601

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    It could be both, who knows. All I know is that Apple uses persistent animations only sparingly and the Time Machine icon was an exception to this. They only change appearance when the system wants you to notice something. Drawing attention to the backup process is something unusual for Apple, in my opinion. Isn’t Time Machine supposed to be that process that you just switch on and forget? Makes sense to me. ;-)

    That is definitely weird. Why hide that functionality under a button without any indication that some alternatives are there?
     
  12. fisherking macrumors 601

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    exactly. no reason OP to go off on a rant first; ask for help next time before you worry about the end of the world... :D
     
  13. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    Not the only item in the Monitors pane that needs the Option key. You don't see the Detect Displays button without pressing Option.
     
  14. jruschme macrumors 6502

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    Probably an attempt at hiding the feature from those who don't know what they are doing.
     
  15. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    How will these novices ever learn if half the features are kept secret? By reading the nonexistent manuals? By holding down the option key over every user interface element?

    Raskin is spinning in his grave.
     
  16. leman macrumors 604

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    I had hoped the by now people would learn that option key is consistently used through the system to unlock advanced behaviour. But I certainly agree with you that Apple could have made this more obvious.
     
  17. leman macrumors 604

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    Pretty much this. In all honestly, I don't see what is so wrong with that. I mean, people usually learn what different options do by clicking on them. So you might as well option+click on them. As I said, the semantics of that modifier key is very consistent across the OS.
     
  18. navaira macrumors 68040

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    I've been using OS X since Panther and I didn't know that (other than option-click on dock items).
     
  19. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    Use Color Navigator or other professional software for calibration. It's free to download, you just have to buy a calibrator.
     
  20. jruschme macrumors 6502

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    The current discussion at least begs the question of what a novice/average user is doing calibrating his screen, anyway. Apple should be providing optimal profiles for their built-in displays, so it only is of interest to users of external monitors, the MacMini or the MacPro. I'd argue that two of those three probably qualify as being sophisticated enough users to either know about the option or be able to look it up on the web.
     
  21. KALLT macrumors 601

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    The display calibrator tool just adds a new profile to the list, no? Your colour profiles remain available, unless you explicitly delete individual ones. If they wanted to keep the display calibrator utility simply then they should have added an option to choose an ‘advanced setup’ within that app, not an obscure function in a button that is pressed while pressing down the option key. I can completely understand the OP, it’s a stupid thing that they hide it like that.

    In the menu bar it is at least revealed to you when you press down the option key, I didn’t know that buttons do the same. And it’s still terrible user experience if you hide settings like that.
     
  22. fisherking macrumors 601

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    provides a simple interface, and simpler options, for those who don't need the 'expert' or additional functions; but if you do need more, there's a simple way to get to it. what's not to like?
     
  23. SlCKB0Y macrumors 68040

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    This was not done to "dumb down" the OS. It was done to reduce power consumption by removing an unnecessary constantly moving animation.

    Pretty sure the icon changes to have two arrows when it is backing up?
     
  24. SlCKB0Y macrumors 68040

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    Oh you beat me to it. This is exactly correct. Nothing to do with dumbing down.
     
  25. MacRobert10 macrumors 6502

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    Jony "Stick Figure" Ive has simply decided to redesign the OS to cater to those who count:

    Kim Kardashian
    Kanye West
    Paris Hilton
    Sarah Palin
    …the list goes on!

    If you've got real work to do, go elsewhere!!
     

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