Elizabeth Warren's Speech on President-elect Trump

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  1. samcraig macrumors P6

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    I know some here will find parts of the video uncomfortable because clearly there are elements that speak out against Republicans, but I do encourage you all to watch this as it seems pretty spot on when discussing the pains of America and what needs to happen. It's actually mostly non-partisan.

     
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    Like never. I like EW and I still don't want to watch it.

    (sorry samcraig)
     
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    I wonder what she means that she (Dems) will "not give an inch" and will "fight every step of the way" on certain issues. It sounds like a threat of violent resistance if they don't get their way through the voting process. She's clearly pissed, which is understandable given the enormity of their loss.
     
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    Isn't "not one more inch" a line used often by those who advocate against gun restrictions?


    Do you really think Elizabeth Warren is going to start beating on Republicans who don't agree with her? Come, now. Time to use some logic and context.
     
  7. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    It sounds like holding Trump and his office accountable. It doesn't sounds like a threat of violence at all to me. It sounds like being vocal and not being silent or be in hiding.
     
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    Like I said, the loss is too much and he will be held to an impossible standard.
     
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    That's how I would take it, as a figure of speech, not a threat.
     
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    No more impossible that Obama or Bush Jr
     
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    She's going to come busting out of her tipi, spear sharpened, wolf skin draped over her shoulders, prepared for war.
     
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    You forgot war paint. It's the war paint that truly intimidates.
     
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    She talks a great game and I really want to believe her.. but the fact that she went so hard for Hillary and never campaigned for Sanders in the primaries before the nomination (when his Wall Street approach so closely mirrored her own) have left me questioning her authenticity.
     
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    The way I look at this - believe her or not - the sentiment that she conveys is true. It's something both sides should listen to. It's about moving forward and acknowledging the issues that have plagued government. People can get glib or not like the messenger. The message, however, is on target. At least to me.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Honest question. Remember I still haven't listened, only read the link I posted. But you say things like "the sentiment that she conveys is true." and "people can glib or not like the messenger." Couldn't those same sentiments be what some are saying about Trump? Not try to stir the pot. Just asking if you could see how that could be the case.
     
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    It could be. It really depends on the filter you apply to either person. My trust for Trump needs to be built. I may agree with what he says, but my belief in it's truly what he believes vs what he wants people to hear aren't in sync. And I think for this country to heal, the same or similar messaging needs to be sent out from anyone/everyone who has a sphere of influence. IE - Trump supporters right now aren't going to care what Hillary or Obama (likely) have to say. But the message will resonate coming from Trump (hopefully). The video above does speak more to the left - which is why I prefaced my promotion of the video.

    Does that make sense? Ultimately - there needs to be synchronicity and less finger pointing.
     
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    Makes sense.
     
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    Sure. But he is promoting nativist anti-immigrant rhetoric and propping up the alt-right (read: white nationalist movement). I understand why blue collar voters went against Hillary, I take similar positions on "free" trade and deindustrialization. But Trump, and the GOP even more, offer nothing to solve these problems but empty platitudes and promises that are impossible to deliver on. I voted for Hillary because I see Trump as having authoritarian tendencies and despise nativist rhetoric, but was a Sanders supporter in the primary.
     
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    And Drew, I'll add that we haven't seen eye to eye on a lot. But I do want to note that I appreciate the civil conversation in this thread (and some others) where I feel both sides (even if they don't agree) are truly listening (reading) each other and responding vs spewing rhetoric.
     
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    I think we're good. I have tried to be as non-insulting as I can be. Have I poked fun, teased and gloated a little bit in some responses in this thread and others? Yes. I'm pretty chill to get along with. Like I said in another thread today I think we'd find out that we have more in common than not in common.
     
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    Trump doesn't need to parrot what people on the left say, for the sake of unity. Trump has enough to worry about trying to unify his own party, and the many diverse groups that elected him.

    I mean, you would think Gun Nuts, the KKK, Neo-Nazi's, Right to Lifers, fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, Neo-Con's and out of work blue dog Democrats would all get along, but it's a basket of deplorables. They deplore each other almost as much as they do, Mexicans, LGBT's, feminist, health-nazi's, soup Nazi's, snowflakes, socialists, journalists, Government workers, postman, census takers, Ali at the snack-bar..............
     
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    Elizabeth "My whole schtick has been against the big banks and when I could have supported Bernie, the candidate actually running against big banks and capitalist over-reach, I decided to do nothing until the DNC cheated him out of the nomination, and then I went against everything I stood for by throwing all of my weight behind Hillary" Warren?
     
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    Trump was never my first pick. He was the nominee of the Party I more closely align with. Could he use less flowery words? Sure. His stances on ILLEGAL immigration are pretty light compared to what mine would be if given dictator powers. I believe the mistake you are making is grouping Trump with the GOP together. The GOP is dying, they are latching on to Trump because he won. Want to see examples of this. look no further than Paul Ryan sucking up to Trump post election.
     

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