Better get busy with f*&$ing Luxembourg then, that place is Switzerland on steroids. It's disgraceful, you earn your profits here, you pay taxes on those profits here. You need us far, far more than we need you.
I don't get why our politicians don't do something about this? Starbucks paying to cooperation tax for three years? Shut them down, there's a dozen other coffee chains happy to pay taxes and do business. Amazon not paying tax? Shut them down and they'll be three companies up and running to replace them over night. No business is irreplaceable.
But silly me, I forgot our politicians are all bribed, sorry 'lobbied' to look the other way. God I hate the mainstream political parties in this country, they are scum!
They are also investigating Luxembourg. FIAT is one of the companies investigated
That would sound so much more convincing if the USA did own 17 Trillion dollars.
Your whole country is living on some else dime.
Pay you way moocher![]()
I understand the law as you have explained. I guess I am not clear if Apple did anything illegal. A company has the right to negotiate with another company for goods or with a state for tax breaks. There is nothing illegal with that. If Apple knowingly entered into a contract that was illegal due to EU regulations then I agree that should get punished, but if Apple simply negotiated well and it was Ireland that acted knowing they were violating the EU regulations then why should Apple have to pay? I don't know the details, but it sounded from this article that the EU found that Ireland did wrong, not Apple. But if I misunderstood and it found that Apple knowingly colluded in the violation then I have no issue with them paying.
Actually, the supremacy of EU laws over national laws is fairly well established. And as has been pointed out many times in this thread, there are in fact EU Regulations that are implemented directly as law in every single member state, without any room for national interpretation. You are confusing regulations with directives.Thus it isn't EU laws that supersedes anything, but the obligation to implement laws according to the treaty Ireland entered into by joining the EU.
And how the EU would wipe jobs? Are you saying that EU will close Apple jobs in Ireland? Are you saying that a company don't have to return illegal taxes because they can treat to leave the country?
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By EU forcing the Irish government to change or do away with it's tax structure and incentives it may no longer be possible to attract foreign companies who only are there BECAUSE of the tax advantages and possibilities.
If anything truly illegal was done, then of course make the guilty parties pay and then some!
By EU forcing the Irish government to change or do away with it's tax structure and incentives it may no longer be possible to attract foreign companies who only are there BECAUSE of the tax advantages and possibilities.
If anything truly illegal was done, then of course make the guilty parties pay and then some!
well going from 89% debt in 2008 to 111% in 2013 is an awful lot for sure ... even if the economy picks up nicely, it will take at least decade to pay back that much. Even for the US.
35% extra in 5 years is crazy considering the US size
in Austria the discussion is currently about the new federal debt calculation method which was just updated by the EU to included external companies/partly state own companies and their debt and assets, and science investments etc.
needless to say Austria's debt went from 74% to 81%
have any dutch newspapers reported on the new calculations ?
Better get busy with f*&$ing Luxembourg then, that place is Switzerland on steroids. It's disgraceful, you earn your profits here, you pay taxes on those profits here. You need us far, far more than we need you.
No, 1/2 the country is paying taxes and the leech class which doesn't is having our production redistributed to them.
No doubt Apple will get shot down in the press for this despite other companies doing the same thing, and also the fact Ireland is responsible.
No, 1/2 the country is paying taxes and the leech class which doesn't is having our production redistributed to them.
They are also investigating Luxembourg. FIAT is one of the companies investigated
About time too. The EU should fine Ireland a multiple of taxes lost, in the same way European companies are subject to such fines in the US. It is time for this to end.
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To be honest it's not really Apple's fault. if you are a business and a country offers you a fantastic sweetheart deal what are you going to say ?
Taxes should rise for Apple and by a lot. The US tax authorities are rightly very unhappy with the use of tax avoidance techniques by Apple, in particular sheltering their international profits abroad and paying very little tax on them either via deal likes the one with Ireland
BS there are very little citizens who dont pay any taxes.
Perhaps educate yourself before repeating (wrongly) other people words?
ANd the netherlands .
You must be waiting hitting refresh just so you can post the most sensationalized comment first.
BS there are very little citizens who dont pay any taxes.
Perhaps educate yourself before repeating (wrongly) other people words
Governments should firstly stop wasting tax money and should be forced to transparency.No, taxes are too high as it is, in all reality there should be a flat sales tax of no more than 10% (total for state, federal,local, county and any other municipalities that exist) on everything the end consumer purchases and absolutely no other taxes. The various governments should then be forced to live within this budget and never borrow money. Bottom line is that 10% of the people's income is very doable for any government to work with and this system would eliminate all of these tax issues.
But what is the penalty for Ireland. They clearly did wrong and as punishment they may get to collect back taxes from Apple? This seems wrong. I am trying to understand how the state gets punished. Do people go to jail? Does the money go to the EU and not Ireland? What?
I'm not sure if punishment is the right term - from what I've read so far (and I'm open to correction) there's been little mention of fines/charges. Rather Apple may be found to have 'merely' underpaid taxes and will have to pay them retrospectively.
I'm still interested in who would receive these taxes. Given that it's Ireland who was collecting the tax, and is accused of undercharging, would those billions of euros go to the Irish Revenue?
I can agree with that. I couldn't think of any other term to use at the moment. I was thinking the exact same thing regarding the repayment of taxes. Who gets it?
So what percentage of the United States population pays personal income tax at the federal level?
No, taxes are too high as it is, in all reality there should be a flat sales tax of no more than 10% (total for state, federal,local, county and any other municipalities that exist) on everything the end consumer purchases and absolutely no other taxes.
The various governments should then be forced to live within this budget and never borrow money.
Bottom line is that 10% of the people's income is very doable for any government to work with and this system would eliminate all of these tax issues.
"Legally evade" is an oxymoron.
If a company or person pays exactly the tax they owe under the law, they are not evading anything.
Huh? VAT has zero to do with profit- you, as a business, collect VAT from each sale on behalf of the government
Governments should firstly stop wasting tax money and should be forced to transparency.
No, VAT is not always independent of profit. If your profit is low because your markup is low, your VAT liability will be correspondingly low, as the difference between VAT received and VAT paid will be less.
Well U2 did this.
In 2006 the band moved its corporate base from Ireland to the Netherlands, where royalties on music incur virtually no tax.
http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=772215
BS there are very little citizens who dont pay any taxes.
But think for a moment. If what Apple and hundreds of other corporations did in Ireland was so clearly illegal, then why the hell did they get away with it for so long? And why was no one (in the EU) able to enforce it years ago?
And you claim back VAT on everything you buy.