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Discussion in 'Community' started by mcarnes, Jun 14, 2005.
Thinking of getting one. Do they really paralyze you? Do they hurt?
You got a bad heart, a neurological disorder or are high on coke, a Taser can kill you. Happened here. This is not recreational stuff.
I don't know what the carry laws are in OR, but show up here in BC with one in your pocket and you get free accommodations courtesy of the Queen.
I'm with CanadaRAM on this one. A bit unnecessary, no?
Go to www.muchosucko.com (which has some adult content) and do a search for tazer. I think the third movie that comes up will answer your question. OUCH.
Pepper spray works great and it's small enough to carry in a man-purse.
Which you can also find at the above site - ouch again.
Tazer Gun or Stun-Gun?
A tazer is the one that actually shoots the dart-tips out into the subject and then sends high-voltage across them to electrify the target. The range on them varies, but usually a decent distance of around 3m can be had. A stun-gun is the little black devices that have the exposed tips fixed to the handle. Upon activating the trigger high-voltage electricity is fired between the points. The stun-gun is a contact-based defense weapon and you must be in direct contact with the assailant to have it work effectively.
If you want a stun-gun, perhaps, but a tazer is way overkill and probably illegal in many states. Pepper spray works great, as well as some other chemical sprays that alter the nazal and sensory points as well as the eyes. Otherwise, and this sounds funny but works, a good ol' blow-horn works wonders when applied at close range in the direction of an assailant. Put the spout up to the ear and blare it and you not only pop their eardrum and inflict serious pain but also alert anyone nearby.
Personally I think you should take a self-defense class in Akido or something and just defend yourself.
Doesn't a bullhorn hurt YOUR ears too?
I was thinking of a stun gun, not a tazer, sorry. Just wondering what this actually feels like, from those who have had the pleasure of being hit by one. I guess I need to test it out on myself to really know.
Thanks for the responses so far, keep 'em coming.
Got hit by a Citroen XM once, that bloody hurt...
My cousin accidentally cattle-prodded himself in the leg last summer, limped for a fortnight, I thought I was going to have a coronary from laughing so much. Electricity is not funny when applied across skin at very high voltages.
Aikido is great if you've got 5 or 6 years to become really proficient in it (I teach it), and you'll want one of the nasty varients like Daito Ryu or the harder Tomiki styles, not the traditional "for the art" stuff.
No self defence class will work in the short term, if you need quick self defence buy a big, nasty dog.
Nothing stops someone from assaulting you like a 40-caliber hunk of lead.
i was accidently whacked in the arm with my friends stun gun (25,000 volt), and it felt like evander holyfield knuckle punched my arm with all his rage and might. I collapsed for about 2 seconds then i got right up, a bit unsteady though. If you didn't count the burnt hair and the feeling of having a bruise, but not having one, then it wasn't too bad.
It was a cheapo $19.95 type model though.
Sadly, we don't have the option in the UK, mind we can't carry stun-guns, mace, pepper spray, pointy sticks or use harsh language anymore...
They won't let most of the police forces here use much above a pepper spay and a baton, the armed response squads don't patrol openly unless it's near government buildings or airports.
I still say the big dog gets you home safe, no-one want's to mess with a big chunk of fur, teeth and bad attitude... oh wait, that's Naomi Campbell isn't it?
When I lived in Virginia, I pulled a gun twice while trying to be mugged. I won't go as far to say it saved my life, but it prevented and harm to myself.
Maryland and Washington have very strict gun laws. Mine are in the safe-deposit box.
That's not strictly true. The Met are running armed patrols - in Trojans - around some of the dodgier West London areas (those beginning with H) to try and combat some of the Eastern European gangs there.
I wouldn't mess with Naomi either
Wow is he stupid.
They may be armed, but they still have the weapons in the boot don't they? Don't tell me someone changed the Mets Rules of Engagement for patrol cars...
The Cheshire police tested tasers in the field earlier this year (might have been last year now), and concluded that they were effective but too dangerous, and that the scumbags should have at least a sporting chance to stab a policeman...
London, and Manchester to an extent, are a different matter, if I ever see Big Ron from the Sidcup station getting out of his Fiesta with a Ruger strapped to his hip, I'm moving to a country where I can have one too.
Incidentally, on the Dog vs taser/stun-gun/handgun tip, check this out... I'll take two of those and you can have a small tank, I'll still win...
Thats stinkin' crazy! Shesh!
Officers in ARVs carry Glocks as standard with, usually, MP5s in the boot. Specialist Firearms Officers have access to heavier weapons - mainly H&K G3s. I was under the impression that Tazer trials were being extended to London, along with with other forms of "non-lethal" weapons. Feel free to correct me. I'm not sure how the Home Office concluded that stun guns are "too dangerous" for ordinary use, but I'm don't understand how the Home Office thinks on anything
EDIT: according to a French friend of mine, they're not French but Corsican - a subtle difference. They make up the backbone of the CRS - the French anti riot squad - and are a bit loony
I think the fact that a tazer will kill a citizen with a pacemaker or, as CanadaRAM noted, high on coke was a deciding factor, you can't tazer some pissed bloke and then watch his chest explode, it's not christian apparently...
I thought the London trials had been halted cos of the research from the states.
Mind, smacking someone around the head with one of those batons isn't going to extend his lifespan any.
French, Corsican, who cares, I'm not going to be reaching for a phrasebook when those mutts are around...
I got tazed once during a protest. All I can say is don't drink a lot of water if there is a chance of beign tazed.....
It hurt like a mother, but the pain went away shortly after.
AK47 assualt riffle, banana clip
Not real portable.
Guys, I think mcarnes is looking for a stun gun for *self-use,* not self-protection. Unless I'm misunderstanding (highly possible), you're all on the wrong track.
It's for self protection. I've always carried a pocket knife, but thought a stun gun would be less messy and maybe more effective. I just wondered if it hurt enough and if it really "stunned" the other person. It sounds like it does.
I was thinking of getting one for my wife, but am afraid an attacker might just take it from her and use it against her. For her I think something that works at a distance would be better. But she won't touch a gun. Is mace and blow horns all we can give our ladies?
I imagine a stun gun shot to the groin area would be pretty effective, but I'm not gonna test that one. I'll try it on my arm, then see how quickly I can walk afterwards. All in the name of science!