Example of media spin on NK

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  1. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-kim-jong-un-very-honorable-open-2018-4

    notice emphasis on very honorable and very open, while ignoring the rest of his statement.



    Trump clearly referencing recent dealing with NK coming to the table on denuclearization, stating that Kim Jong Un had been acting very open and honorable during the recent dealings, this gets spun by BI, CNN, MSNBC into Trump casting him as an open and honorable as a person in general, the media goes crazy.

    Add to this a few months ago they were blowing their tops over the fact that Trump was treating Kim too harshly and were basically rejoicing and ready to join Kim in taunting Trump. The media finally remembering that Kim is actually a piece of **** that has concentration camps that they conveniently forgot about only recently.

    Seriously new lows being set here daily.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/24/politics/trump-kim-jong-un-honorable/index.html

    They are everywhere, just turn on any news channel except fox and wait for a bit.

    Uhh no **** he has concentration camps? Where were you guys when you said Trump was being too harsh on them?
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    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/24/trump-kim-jong-un-gerry-connolly-sot-tsr.cnn

    ^ best example, just listen to this ****, he didn't call him an honorable man, ffs.
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    Trying to figure out where these guys get off after Obama sat on his hands his entire 2 terms while Kim built up nuclear capabilities.
     
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    So someone asked him to explain his comment and he wouldn't provide an answer. The rest of the article that talks about it goes into issues with NK past. which isn't wrong. Trump essentially made a comment and didn't explain what it meant, so where exactly is the spin?




    And here we have a representative expressing his view, you know a personal opinion. So again, where is the spin?
     
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    Kim Jong-Un had his uncle executed, reportedly by having more than 90 anti-aircraft rounds fired into him. (The body was reportedly pulverized, and a number of witnesses passed out in horror.) Kim Jong-Un is also responsible for the killing of his half-brother, by duping two women into smearing his face with nerve agents in Malaysia.

    I'm having a very hard time squaring this sort of behavior with the word "honorable." Then again, I'm obviously lacking the sort of genius level intellect that Donald Trump claims for himself. And I obviously have a different way of settling family disputes than either Mr Trump or Kim Jong-Un.
     
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    Ehh, saying that guy is "very honorable" is definitely not the best choice of words.
     
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    This is exactly the ******** I'm talking about. Trump was referencing recent negotiations, you guys extend it to his entire character.

    Three months ago you all were basically worried about Kim getting bullied by Trump, now you want to remind us that he was a brutal dictator because Trump said he was appearing to act honorable during recent meetings, which he further qualified by saying that we've seen it before when deals were scrambled.
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    He was referencing recent actions during negotiations, you hear what you want though.

    Trump used harsher language towards Kim than Obama ever did.
     
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    I think you are tilting at windmills here.

    Trump flip flops and adjusts his view of reality to suit the moment. We all know that. This has nothing todo with an imagined media bias.
     
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    We weren't worried about Kim getting bullied by Trump, we were worried that Trump's bellicose words might set Kim off and needlessly escalate tensions with North Korea. And now, I'm worried that Trump doesn't know what Kim really wants. I'm pretty sure when Kim talks about denuclearization, he means he wants the US to take our nuclear weapons out of the Pacific region. But Trump thinks it's just about North Korea getting rid of their nuclear weapons.
     
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    The real truth in all this is, the MSM is reeling right now and knows it's going to face a hard dose of reality when Trump denuclearizes the Korean peninsula.

    Their 24/7 hate Trump narrative will be much harder to push... it's gonna take much more than Muh Russia, Muh Stormy, or Muh Cohen.
     
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    Regardless of what he was referencing, it was a poor choice of words in my opinion.

    Two reasons: first, the NK leader is obviously barbaric. Second, why give the media this excuse?
     
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    Well, we all know Trump just says the first thing that slips out of his mind and out of his mouth.

    I doubt the man even knows what "Honourable" means, because, ya know, it takes one to know one.
     
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    You realize that so far nothing has happened?
     
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    Nothing that we know of. Apparently things have been going on behind the scenes for at least a few years now (according to Nancy Pelosi) and our government is continuing to take steps in the right direction.
     
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    His remarks about NK have displayed essentially erratic behavior, even taking account of the additional statement that you point out. First he makes bellicose military threats and now he says Kim is acting honorably. Of course, Trumpsters defend this as his unconventional style and think it's how he'll do things that other presidents have failed to do. Meanwhile, he can't even run a smooth WH, his picks of "the best people" are backfiring as many are either incompetent, corrupt or criminal, and his days seem to be filled with playing golf, watching Fox News and firing off unhinged tweets. If he manages to disarm NK, he will get the credit he deserves, but so far it's all been talk and there's no track record to indicate otherwise. He was also going to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by coming up with a great "deal." How's that going?
     
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    If these talks work I hope you can find the positive in that.
     
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    Trump is about to do something that the last few presidents couldn’t do. It will equal a victory for Trump and the dems will do anything to spin it. Hence Midterms.
     
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    sure do ... you do know NK has never dealt with a non politician as President of the USA before.

    In case you also haven't noticed yet ... things are different when dealing with this President.
     
  23. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Oh, no, I have noticed. This is the first time in recent memory that we have had a president with a proven track record of being taken advantage of repeatedly in business negotiations.
     
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    sounds like you're concerned Kim is going to try and take advantage of President Trump?

    IMO, that sounds like a really bad idea for Kim's long term survival plans.
     
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    Of course I’m concerned about that. Kim is playing him like a fiddle so far.
     

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