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Eye strain from hours of music production

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tablatom

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Oct 8, 2009
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Hi,
i work with Logic pro most days between 6 to 8 hours a day.

The monitor i use is 24" with 1920 x 1080.

I was working with my 15" macbook pro's screen on the road for a few weeks in a row recently and noticed my eyes getting tired and my short field vision getting blurred.
Since then, back on the 24" screen thats all gone.

There are 2 reasons why eyes get tyres.

1. Squinting to see small objects like tiny text

2. being fixed straight ahead, therefore not using the eye muscles looking side to side and up and down.

My question is,

if i get a 27" monitor and have a resolution of 2560 x 1440 will the script in Logic pro be small than what i get on my 24" at 1920 x 1080?

The good side of having the 27" monitor is that my eyes will be physically moving side to side and up and down more than the 24", which is what i want.

And at 2560 x 1440 on the 27" having all that extra screen real estate will definitely help my work flow.

Does any one here work on a 27" monitor at 1920 x 1080? Does it look blurred?
 
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BlazednSleepy

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Since you work with audio I suggest trying a 29inch monitor. All that extra space to edit your waveforms.
 
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Stetrain

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A 27" 2560x1440 display will have a higher pixel density than a 24" 1920x1080 display, meaning that things will be smaller on the screen.

Do you wear glasses? Having the right prescription, as well as things like antiglare coatings can help with eye strain.

I wouldn't recommend running a 2560x1440 monitor at 1920x1080, as that will just make things blurry and probably make the eye strain worse. If you just want a larger monitor you can get 1920x1080 27" displays for much cheaper than the 2560x1440 ones.
 
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Stetrain

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BlazednSleepy

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Stetrain said:
That doesn't really have 'more space' to edit because it actually has fewer pixels than the 27" 2560x1440 displays. It's basically just a super wide 1080p display.

It may work well for this purpose though because it will have more space than a standard 1080p monitor but still roughly the same pixel density, so text etc. won't be as small as a 1440p display.
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We're talking specifically audio production. So yes, this screen will have more space for him to work with wave forms.
 
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katewes

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There's a website out there that has about 2,000+ comments, many of which are testimonies of people who have gotten eyestrain and headaches from using glossy screens. In many of those testimonies, the people said the headaches and eyestrain went away after they stopped using glossy screens.

To be as helpful to you, I would have wanted to give you the url for that website, but MacRumors webmasters delete such posts - and give you warnings not to refer to such sites - so, because of MacRumors' policy, I am forbidden by them to refer to that site.
 
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mykem

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I'd go with the higher quality 2560*1440 27" display and use the scaling option in OS X to bring it down to 1920*1080 if you find the script/text to be too small. That way you still retain the pixel density (110ppi).
 
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MJL

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Jun 25, 2011
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FWIW

I've never been able to work any length of time on a glossy screen.

Due to deteriorating eyesight I went from using a laptop to a Mac Mini. Initially I used a 23" LG cheapo screen with CFL backlighting and then scored a Dell U2412M. Initially thrilled with the brighter LED screen etc. but I started to have eyestrain and headaches (not with the CFL LG) and did a lot of research. It appears that a small number of people are affected by the PWM of the backlighting so I bought a Dell U2713H which is wide gamut and uses current control (rather than PWM) to control the brightness. No more headaches, no more sore eyes.

At this moment we're in a temporary location and the TV is a HD LED LG. Cannot bear to watch it for more than 15 minutes until my eyes start to hurt. Our older plasma does not give me this problem.
 
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Stetrain

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BlazednSleepy said:
We're talking specifically audio production. So yes, this screen will have more space for him to work with wave forms.
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More inches, but fewer pixels. Less stuff will fit on screen than a 2560x1440 monitor. Not saying it's a bad thing necessarily.
 
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tablatom

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BlazednSleepy said:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=225-4201
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Cheers

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Stetrain said:
A 27" 2560x1440 display will have a higher pixel density than a 24" 1920x1080 display, meaning that things will be smaller on the screen.

Do you wear glasses? Having the right prescription, as well as things like antiglare coatings can help with eye strain.

I wouldn't recommend running a 2560x1440 monitor at 1920x1080, as that will just make things blurry and probably make the eye strain worse. If you just want a larger monitor you can get 1920x1080 27" displays for much cheaper than the 2560x1440 ones.
Click to expand...

Thanks.
Why would there be any difference between a 27" 2560x1440 running at 1920x1080 and a 27" 1920x1080 running at 1920x1080?
If there is a difference and what you are saying is true, i think i will go for the best quality 27" 1920x1080.

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Stetrain said:
That doesn't really have 'more space' to edit because it actually has fewer pixels than the 27" 2560x1440 displays. It's basically just a super wide 1080p display.

It may work well for this purpose though because it will have more space than a standard 1080p monitor but still roughly the same pixel density, so text etc. won't be as small as a 1440p display.
Click to expand...

This monitor seems like a good compromise.
It runs at 2560 x 1080.
Any one here use this kind of 29" superwide screen with Logic pro?

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katewes said:
There's a website out there that has about 2,000+ comments, many of which are testimonies of people who have gotten eyestrain and headaches from using glossy screens. In many of those testimonies, the people said the headaches and eyestrain went away after they stopped using glossy screens.

To be as helpful to you, I would have wanted to give you the url for that website, but MacRumors webmasters delete such posts - and give you warnings not to refer to such sites - so, because of MacRumors' policy, I am forbidden by them to refer to that site.
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HMMM thanks thats very interesting.
My MBP is glossy, i don't really use the screen with Logic pro.
My 24" monitor is Matt finished and it does seem eye friendly.
 
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tablatom

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mykem said:
I'd go with the higher quality 2560*1440 27" display and use the scaling option in OS X to bring it down to 1920*1080 if you find the script/text to be too small. That way you still retain the pixel density (110ppi).
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Trying to get me head around this.

Its hard to find the ppi info on 1920x1080 27 inch monitors.

What i would assume is what you are saying,
that,
as the 2560x1440 27" screen has much more pixels, that 1920X1080 will look sharper with the higher pip, not worse than on a 27" screen that only goes as high as 1920X1080 as it has a lower ppi.
 
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Stetrain

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tablatom said:
Cheers
Thanks.
Why would there be any difference between a 27" 2560x1440 running at 1920x1080 and a 27" 1920x1080 running at 1920x1080?
If there is a difference and what you are saying is true, i think i will go for the best quality 27" 1920x1080.
Click to expand...



Running a 2560x1440 display at 1920x1080 will cause blurring since it isn't the native resolution of the display.

A native 1920x1080 display running at 1920x1080 will be sharper than a 2560x1440 display running at 1920x1080.

Since your original problem is eye strain, I wouldn't recommend running a monitor at non-native resolution.
 
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tablatom

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Stetrain said:
Running a 2560x1440 display at 1920x1080 will cause blurring since it isn't the native resolution of the display.

A native 1920x1080 display running at 1920x1080 will be sharper than a 2560x1440 display running at 1920x1080.

Since your original problem is eye strain, I wouldn't recommend running a monitor at non-native resolution.
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Cheers, i'll have a look at some.
 
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Anitramane

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Do you have the right screen warmth and calibration? Changing mine from adobe rgb to generic helped me a lot.
 
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