Facebook says LGBT Americans are coming out on the site twice as much as last year

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  1. aerok macrumors 65816

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    http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/15/9541431/facebook-social-research-LGBT-study

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  2. Futurix macrumors 6502

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    Very good!
    I still think 10% of population are GLBT and not just official 1.5-2%!
     
  3. aerok thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I agree with you but I believe (no source) that less than 5% actually come out.
     
  4. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I'm tried of gays coming out as if it's some right of gay passage. If you're gay, you're gay ....WTF you coming out from nowadays?

    Side Note: Mainly speaking about America. Many other countries are still completely jacked up with gay rights views.
     
  5. WarHeadz macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think Facebook is referring to posting a whole coming out status, I don't think there's a count for that. They're referring to users changing their "interested in" part in their "about me" section to reflect the sex they're actually into. As I actually just finally did a few weeks ago. I didn't post a "coming out" status because it's no one's business except those who are close to me.

    As for why gays feel the need to "come out" to people, things have only gotten good for us in America in the last few years. I'm 25 and i grew up feeling different and no one wants to embrace something they felt the need to hide for so many years. No one wants perceptions to change about them. It's a scary thing that you may not understand for someone who hasn't lived through it. You also have to remember, not every gay person in America lives in a very open minded part. What about the 15 year old closeted gay kid in the heart of Lousiana whose family spews out anti-gay rhetoric on the daily? Many people still have a lot to lose for coming out. In almost 30 states you can still be fired on Monday for being gay and married on Sunday.
     
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    Thanks for the info ..... Holy $%#@, I just looked it up, I had no clue gays can still be fired in many states. So gays can get married but legally get fired for being married? That's so backwards.
     
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    Yep. Unfortunately that's how it is as of now. Sexual orientation is not yet a federally protected class under the Civil Rights Act of 1965 where all the other protected categories are listed. For this reason it's been up to states to take it upon themselves to add sexual orientation as a protected class in addition the federally mandated protected classes. 21 states to this day have done so. Most have not. Screwed up ain't it?

    We can legally be discriminated against in employment, housing, and public establishments in most of the country. That is, unless we stay closeted....

    It's also not unusual that you didn't know. Recent surveys showed that 70% of Americans think it's already illegal to discriminate against gay people in all 50 states. Most people just feel that's how it should be so they just assume that's how it already is. I wish that were true.
     
  8. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    With the social stigma attached, coming out is quite a big deal to people.
     
  9. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    If you knew any gay people who went through this, I think you might be more understanding. As explained to me by friends and family members who are gay, it's not about flaunting their sexuality but rather finally being able to live their lives without hiding who they are.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I also have family(cousin) and friends that are gay. Most of them that announced that they are gay openly, it was already pretty much obvious.

    I question whether it's about wanting acceptance from the mainstream or that they are looking to be embraced by the gay community. Probably both, but mostly the latter.
     
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    I can't speak for everybody, but my coming out had nothing to do with the gay community. I literally only have one gay friend and I'm not much into the "scene". My coming out had more to do with my family and all my straight friends.

    Prior to my coming out, they all had their suspicions but didn't ask because they didn't want to make me uncomfortable. They noticed that anytime they would start talking about their sexual endeavors with women I would always become a bit uncomfortable and distant and never had stories of my own to tell. I had a pretty active sex life on the "down low" prior to coming out, but felt unable to talk about it at the time. Everyone thought I was a miserable asexual virgin.

    Years of hiding that sort of thing really starts to mess with your mind and takes a lot of energy out of you. The constant social anxiety and depression would start to kick in any time I knew I was going to be around my friends. It was horrible.

    After coming out, it was a weight lifted off my shoulders. My one friend was actually brought to tears after I told him about everything I had been through trying to hide a huge part of myself, he was devastated for me but so happy for me at the same time. Those around me said the difference in me was night and day. My friends said I finally seem 100% comfortable and not partially closed off. They can share hookup stories with me and they fully expect to hear mine as well. Even if the thought of them hooking up with a guy is gross to them, they still enjoy hearing my stories. I'm their "bromo".

    Today I'm heading off to Atlantic City for my best friend's bachelor party weekend. I only know 3 out of the 6 guys there. The groom and his brother in law know about me, but the rest of them don't know I'm gay yet. It's not something I will explicitly flaunt, but I'm also not hiding it in the least bit. It'll probably come out on its own when we head over to the strip clubs. Gag. :confused:
     
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    Thanks for sharing your story. I'm sure its not easy for anyone - even in these more "enlightened" times to tell one's family and friends something like that.

    Strip clubs are pretty gross places, even for many straight guys.
     
  13. Praxis91 macrumors regular

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    It's still under 2% globally.

    As for strip clubs, I'm a straight man that hates them. They're so dirty.

    /not my thing
     
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    It depends on where you go. I've been to two that charge $150 a head (that's how they double bill you), and they were pretty nice.

    ...well, other than the whole "shouldn't have eaten Mexican two hours before" thing, but that's another story for another time.
     
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    What kind of head are we talking, here?
     
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    It depends on if it's Wednesday or Friday.
     
  17. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    That sounds like comedy in the making.
     
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    It was pretty hilarious. They thought it would be fun to have one of the strippers grab my head and rub her titties on it. The bachelor was laughing his ass off. But he wasn't laughing when we bought him the "bachelor party special" and he was brought onto the stage, stripped down almost naked, and had his ass paddled by naked women. I got the last laugh there.

    Afterward I proceeded to drink them all under the table. They made the mistake of tying to keep up with me. It's 9:30am and I'm wide awake with no hangover and they're all still passed out and we have to be at the paintball range at 11. What a bunch of queers...:D
     
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    Youth is wasted on the young - George Bernard Shaw.

    Enjoy it while you can, my friend. Glad you had a good time.
     
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    Sometimes people are just happy for others to receive acceptance, rights and sunshine all around.
     
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    I think a lot of this is just changing status on facebook as WarHeadz mentioned. Give it a bit more time. If it's not seen as a big deal, people will get over it.

    I don't actually understand the point of strip clubs. You aren't going to have sex with the stripper. If you just want a naked woman to dance for you, find a less sexually conservative girlfriend (couldn't resist stupid joke).
     
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    I agree, over the past few decades I've seen the acceptance grow more and more. And those that try to argument against it just disappear over the time (in PRSI we call it "to pull a SLCFlyfishing") .


    I agree again. Why do a strip club if you can have porn at home? At least they get to the point there.
     
  24. WarHeadz, Oct 18, 2015
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    Yeah I truly don't get it. I try to put myself in a straight guy's shoes and I just can't understand the whole strip club fascination. And there were some effing hot guys at the strip club, they could have absolutely went out and gotten themselves laid without a problem. What's the point of going to some grimy club and giving yourself blue balls?

    It was a great weekend though. Time to recuperate.

    Oh, and just to update everyone...as I mentioned before only 2 people knew I was gay in the beginning. By the end of the first night everyone knew. We all had a long discussion about it at dinner since the bachelor spilled the beans when he had one too many beers at Hooters, then we all had a nice toast to feeling comfortable in your own skin. I got a few playful jokes about it here and there throughout the weekend, all in good fun. No one was remotely bothered by it or uncomfortable. Didn't think this to be possible a couple of years ago. Our society has changed so tremendously. It's really a beautiful thing and an incredible phenomenon.

    And public letter to the righties who fought against this: SUCK IT! You not only lost this culture battle (that you yourselves began) on a legal level, you also lost the hearts and minds of the people. All your fear mongering, disgustingly comparing us to pedophiles, playing the "religious freedom" card, warning people about the "gay agenda" and calling us perverts and deviants...all of those years of hard work and determination have been pulled right out from under you. You've crashed and burned, and what a spectacular train wreck it has been to witness....
     
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    what are we talking about here? firing people for being homossexual without paying what is due?
     

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