Farrakhan Calls On Black People To Help Redevelop Detroit

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  1. XrayTed macrumors regular

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    Odd, blacks have had over 4 decades of rule in Detroit, and the only thing they succeeded in doing was making it look like a 3rd world war zone.
    A "new mecca", he says ? Mecca for who, what ? I understand this violent, militant racist and supremacist is about 80% rhetoric and 19% hype, but this soaring babble is far over the top even for him.

    We all know the reason why Detroit was once a great, thriving world famous city - Because of its importance in the industrial age, and the many automotive innovators that hailed from and did business in the area. We know why is has been reduced to a glorified ghetto - White flight. I'm not about to sift through his racist monologues, but I wonder if there is even a shred of substance or at least concrete, realistic thought behind his propaganda ?





    Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan is calling upon black people to unite and help redevelop Detroit.

    Farrakhan’s remarks came Sunday as the Chicago-based movement wrapped up its four-day Saviour’s Day convention in Detroit, which has a black majority population.

    Farrakhan, 82, told a crowd at Joe Louis Arena: “Detroit can be a great, great city again.” He says “opportunity is here, but the disunity is also here.”

    “Detroit can be the new mecca,” Farrakhan said. “It can be great, great city. And it’s 83 percent black.”

    His speech, entitled “Divine Instructions: Commands for 2016,” was streamed live on the National of Islam website.

    In it, Farrakhan covered[​IMG] a wide variety of topics including politics. He criticized politicians on both sides of the aisle for not helping black people, mentioning laws “written by Republicans” that he says deny black people the same opportunities as whites. About Democrats, he said: “They look right at you because they want your vote…I don’t care what they promise.”

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/02/22/farrakhan-calls-on-black-people-to-help-redevelop-detroit/
     
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    If we are calling a spade a spade white flight was racist.
     
  3. XrayTed thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah sure - I no doubt would have got another 1 week ban if I had engaged in such cheap racial banter.

    In any case, I don't even know what you mean or are implying and don't really care to.

    BTW, may interest you to know that UK and much of Europe has its own version of white flight, more like "infidel flight" - Coming soon to a hamlet near you !
     
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    We black folks tend not to take Farrakhan seriously. There is not enough economic/ political power in the black community to pull this type of revitalization off.
     
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    So lots of whites used to live in Detroit and places like it and yet when their kids were going to have to go to school with black kids as well they all left.

    Now sure many of the later departures were probably down to the poorer remaining children dragging down educational standards and down the lower school funding but initially it was undoubtedly down to mixing with blacks.

    Let's not forget it took until the 1990s for a majority of Americans to approve of interracial marriage.
     
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    Black people with the means, leave the inner cities too. What do you call these people, that want to raise their families in the safest areas possible?
     
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    Am glad to know that is the case, if true - And hopefully that isn't tied in with his alleged involvement in bringing down X, yet another violent black racist who today is celebrated as some whimsical icon, with streets and even schools named after him.
    There has been in fact an economic and social revival of sorts in the heart of Detroit [downtown] - And no doubt Farrakhan would be chagrined to know that is due almost entirely to suburban, Wayne country and state people and officials [mostly if not all white] calling the shots and handling finances at places like Cobo center and Belle Isle [which was recently taken over entirely by the state]. We see where Detroits last black mayor is sitting [in prison where he belongs], so I don't think this Farrakhan fantasy has any basis in reality for the reasons you say, and more.

    Talk is cheap and race baiting even cheaper, he is living proof of that and I'll be glad when the reaper calls him home, cannot happen soon enough.

    Eraser, you don't even have a semblance of a clue what you are talking about and I'm not going to be the one to educate you, and are in any case [as per you style] going off on a tangent entirely off topic.
     
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    Black flight as well. Ask Dr. Ben Carson, born in Detroit. What's the automaton knee-jerk racist cryer's response to that?
     
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    Isn't he the token black guy? I am not sure he counts right? Are we counting token black guys?
     
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    At least R has a token black guy who has garnered a fair share of votes, much more than can be said about some other parties.
     
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    Cool so we are counting token black guys now. I wasn't sure.
     
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    I get that Farrakhan is a black answer to Duke, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point here.

    If Detroit is 83% black, then it is up to the black community to make the city great. The city is in such shambles, this presents a great opportunity to show the state, country, and world that a group of people working together can create the proverbial city on a hill. But, doing so requires unity and that is something the people of the city need to overcome. Years of gang warfare have pulled the city apart like a delicious Carolina pork, and it's going to take everybody working together, and then some, to get on the right path.

    The laws that are in place aren't doing Detroit any favors, and both sides of the aisle are using the black vote to jockey for power without giving two cents about the situation in the city (beyond the image it presents of the state). The best thing going for Detroit these days is a police force that recognizes a different dynamic exists within the city and is accepting that they can only do so much, rather than claiming to have everything under control.
     
  13. FieldingMellish, Feb 23, 2016
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    Farrakhan’s lifetime of divisiveness is what’s wrong.

    The real story going beyond Farrakhan’s overture for change is how the Democrats destroyed Detroit. Leftist policies have driven an iconic American city into bankruptcy.

    Relevant snippets from a linked article:

    “... In short, Detroit is a city on the brink of ruination. At the center of that ruination is 50 years of Democrat rule. The last Republican Mayor the city had was Louis C. Miriani, who lost his reelection bid in 1961 and ended up spending 10 years in prison for tax evasion. Incoming mayor, Democrat Jerome Cavanagh, brought the "Model City" program -- fashioned after Soviet Union centralized efforts to transform entire urban areas at once -- to a nine-square-mile section of the city. Using a commuter tax and a new income tax as his vehicle, Cavanagh promised residents "the rich" would pay for it all. Yet because people were being told by government how to run their businesses and their lives, in exchange for government goodies, the program ended up failing spectacularly.”

    “In 1967, after police broke up a celebration at an after hours club, an enraged neighborhood began to riot, igniting the worst race riot of the decade. Black-owned business were looted and burned to the ground. Forty people were killed and 5,000 were left homeless, and the "white flight" out of the city center, totaling 140,000 people over an eighteen month period, ensued. The city was never the same.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/179769/how-democrats-destroyed-detroit-arnold-ahlert
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    I'm surprised you didn't include the other trope, Carson, a black man, acting white by going to school, studying and looking to make something of himself. C'mon, man, go all the way with your reverse stereotyping.
     
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    My bad I hadn't had my coffee yet. I'll try better next time.
     
  15. nbs2, Feb 23, 2016
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    Yes. The Left had a failed city and a Republican went to jail. And then Marshall Mathers became Eminem and had a fight with a couple of pop stars or got someone pregnant or something. Who cares? Pointing fingers about the past doesn't do anything to fix the present.

    Yes. We can take the lessons of the past and say, "command economies don't really work". Fine. But what's in Detroit is exactly what you're providing here - finger-pointing. That's useful in the long term as we determine who can sustain improvement, but isn't going to fix what is on the ground today.

    Today there are more than 4 blacks for every other. That means that black unity is key to turning the city around. Art and culture are great when a city is functional, but the focus must be on civic duty, basic education and other city services, positive social interaction, and the rule of law. And that takes unity.

    Farrakhan is a bad man and likely responsible for some of the failures we see today in Detroit and elsewhere. He's probably responsible for some of the very disunity that he is preaching against. But that doesn't make him wrong now.

    Edit: 5 years from now I don't want to look at this post and wonder about my literacy. Typos galore.
     
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    Are you talking about the party with a black president? Or some other party?
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    Perhaps now - again as the schools etc got worse due to the lack of tax revenues .

    You republicans whine that liberals bring up race issues. But until you're prepared to accept the obvious fact that America was racist people aren't going to move on.
     
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    Perhaps the tax revenue would not have dropped so much, if the Democrats had not adopted a communist plan.
    I don't know if he is a Republican or not, but one of the conservative members here started this thread.
    Until you're prepared to accept the obvious fact that racism is a double edge sword, people are not going to move on.
     
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    Duke?

    Because now that it's been run into the ground by its residents, suddenly they'll realize they're living in a third-world cesspool and will turn it around.

    Pull the other leg--it's got bells on.
     
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    Source the democrats adopted a communist plan.
     
  20. Populism, Feb 23, 2016
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    Source the whites left only to avoid the co-mingling of white kids with black kids at school.

    Or are you exempt from sourcing racist BS?
     
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    Haven't you heard Comrade? The Democrats have been trying to convert the US from a agrarian society, to a socialist, using only rapid industrialisation and collectivisation.
     
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    Why do you think they left?
     
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    So you aren't going to source your racist BS.

    Got it.
     
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    I'm not really sure on how the premise of "white people taking their kids out of school because of black kids" makes the person who said it "racist".

    Maybe you'd care to explain your rationale here?
     
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