Fast Food and Restaurants Now Accepting EBT

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  1. iBreatheApple, Jul 13, 2013
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    iBreatheApple macrumors 68020

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    Burger King and Pizza Hut (along with a few others) are of the first to begin accepting EBT/ Food Stamps. How do you feel about this?

    In my opinion, this is preposterous. Prepared served food has a premium price for the service. One can get much more food at the grocery store for the price. Someone said to me recently, "so someone receiving assistance doesn't deserve to go out and eat?" No! You're paying more for less food and it's considerably more unhealthy! It's just that, assistance. I'm not one to have the "I pay for your food and living" mentality. I couldn't care less that a small portion of my check goes to people in need. This however, infuriates me.


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  2. aerok macrumors 65816

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    I somewhat agree with you, but we're also at a sad state of life when burgers are cheaper at McDonalds than it is buying ingredients yourself to make your own at the grocery store.
     
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  4. iBreatheApple thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I still don't agree with fast food, but it's not limited to just that. You'll notice some dine-in restaurants in that list already and these are only "of the first" to begin accepting EBT. This is just... I don't even know.
     
  5. rdowns, Jul 13, 2013
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    Actually, what is preposterous is starting a thread where your knowledge of the subject matter seems to stem from a picture in a Pizza Hut window.

    For several years, 4 states have allowed certain restaurants to accept food stamps/EBT for certain elderly, disabled or homeless only (your card must be coded for this), in exchange for low cost meals. The theory behind it is that is is harder or impossible for these people to prepare their own meals. Large national chains are now getting into the program to grab their share of the money.

    Horrible that we're making it easier for the elderly, disabled and homeless get a hot meal.:rolleyes:

    Source: Not the window of my local Pizza Hut
     
  6. aerok macrumors 65816

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    That would make a lot more sense.

    Let's get back on this subject when casinos, bars and strip clubs start accepting EBT for their dining options.
     
  7. iBreatheApple, Jul 13, 2013
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    I assume you didn't know that EBT cards can also be used (and abused) as a standard debit card in many cases. These cards are becoming less and less restricted. Rules vary by state.
     
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    If you actually read the article the transactions at inappropriate locations give a fraud rate of 1%.

    And with cash machines, those in poor areas are more often ones that charge than those in rich areas.
     
  9. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Nice deflection. Where did I say that there isn't any abuse in the system? Right from the article you posted:

    Let's get back on topic of your incorrect assertions in your ill advised thread on restaurants accepting EBT.


    You're just digging yourself deeper and deeper. Your 101 million get food aid has been debunked already in the thread below. CNS is about as reliable as the window of your local Pizza Hut.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1607921
     
  10. iBreatheApple thread starter macrumors 68020

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    The fact that EBT is being accepted in fast food chains and dine-ins is insane and I stand by that. The "providing hot meals" statement that you use for justification is not justification at all. These patrons need to shop at a grocery store where they can prepare their own meals and not pay premiums at restaurants. My posting of those articles was not for the mere facts, it was that they are becoming more and more like debit cards, not that people use them at casinos. I am on topic. They should not be allowed to just go purchase food from anywhere they please. It's not okay.
     
  11. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    You mad, bro? Your first article has facts you chose to ignore and the second was void of facts. It's a small subset of recipients who can get a restaurant meal, a LOW COST meal the restaurants provide as part of the program. Don't worry, it's not like we're letting them get cheese baked into the crust of some other crazy ****. :rolleyes:

    Again, they can not just go and buy whatever food they want wherever they want.
     
  12. iBreatheApple thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I am mad. Exceptionally so. I don't feel they should be allowed to buy fast food with their EBT. :)
     
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    So what should people who can't cook for themselves do?
     
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    What else are you mad about? You said they are coming with fewer restrictions. Like what?
     
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    It's nice to be so judgemental when you have the resources to buy Macs and iPhones and eat whatever you want wherever you want. You do realize that some people, specifically the elderly CANT cook for themselves and usually have someone come in to do that for them. Sometimes though there's no one there to do that for them. So you're going to judge them because they have the ability to get a hot meal from some restaurant. With a limited menu no less.

    Nice to sit on an ivory tower and look down on those less fortunate.
     
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    Well maybe I'm confused but if they're able to get to a fast food joint they would seemingly be able to cook for themselves too, correct? And if they have someone getting the food for them then I would think that someone could also cook for them.
    Yes, we are going to judge. This whole movement of "can't judge" is a huge problem with this country.
     
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    Ever heard of a taxi service or walking for that matter (if within distance of course)

    What movement are you talking about and who the hell is "we"? Why don't judge your own thoughts motives and actions and let people be. I've been around poor, infirm and otherwise helpless people and its heartbreaking. You do as much as you can but at the end of the day these people are alone.
     
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    the average amount in benefits per person is 2 to 3 dollars a day. so that won't cover much or very often even at mickyd's.
    but it is a state thing in oregon no prepared hot foods are included.
     
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    I can't find my pamphlets at the moment, but I am on disability benefits and have been on them for the last couple of years and will be for the rest of my life as I should have gotten them since the day I was born.

    But basically what it says on it, is that you're free to do whatever you want with your check as long as you're not using it for investment purposes. It even specifies entertainment purposes, buying a car, and other stuff.

    I saved up money from those checks every month in order to buy my MacBook Pro, and I bought my iPad with that money too. I also buy food, whether it be fast food or groceries when my parents need the help.

    And they know that I live with my parents, which is why they only give me less than $500. They also know I'm an artist and CAN make a very small amount of income, but that it isn't sustainable in the case that I'm disabled and can't really scout myself for further work.

    I don't think you understand that fast food is just plain food to a lot of people. It's not any different to buying a frozen meal and popping it into the microwave, which I'm sure that a lot of people on food stamps and benefits are already doing. Like someone else said, I can't cook for myself. I can make a sandwich, I can do cereal, I can do instant coffee, but my hands are pretty weak (I can only use one even) and I have a hard time opening jars and cutting fruit and vegetables in general.
     
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    Not if they are homeless, disabled or elderly - i.e. the people who this would apply to.

    In home care isn't cheap...

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    Probably no less healthy either. And that's what my elderly grandparents did when they were very old.
     
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    Poor people are getting something that Conservatives don't think they "deserve."

    Cue the wails of outrage.

    Maybe people would be happier if we went back to the good old days, when poor people were forced to live in workhouses, picking oakum, and gratefully eating bowls of gruel?

    Guess what: We live in a world where lots of people get things I don't think they "deserve." I include most personal injury lawyers; starting MLB pitchers; and the entire cast of Jersey Shore in that category. But thats the world we live in.
     
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    Careful painting with a broad brush. I lean conservative on many topics, however 100% agree that meals should be made as accessible as possible to those who use EBT. That, in my opinion, is the very purpose of such programs.
     
  23. iBreatheApple thread starter macrumors 68020

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    How is someone able to go to a fast food drive-thru or sit down in a restaurant but unable to cook for themselves? I understand the points noted in this thread, my links are pretty invalid and they really don't cover the point I was trying to cover; I only noticed them in another thread and decided to throw them in for supplemental purposes. In the grand scheme of things, this is not okay... at least not in my opinion.
     
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    How would homeless person cook without a kitchen? And do you really expect someone who is wheelchair bound to be able to be able to reach up to stir a pot?
     
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    There is nothing even remotely similar in skill set between cooking and traveling to a restaurant. So please stop with that.

    As people have mentioned; the elderly, the homeless, the disabled are the ones who'd benefit most by this. These are people who either have difficulty in the mechanics of cooking, or are in a living situation where they have little or no cooking space/utilities.

    My mother is an OTR that specializes in geriatrics, and has plenty of patients who are unable to cook for themselves for whatever reason, and they live on either sit down restaurants or fast food, and the vast majority of these people are on EBT.

    I understand, in your mind, the only people on EBT are either Honey-Booboo's family or y'know... colored. So I'm sure I wasted the few minutes typing this.
     

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