Okay so I am fixing to either purchase one of the following: 1Ghz ibook fully loaded 640Mb RAM 60Gb HD AE BT or refurbed 1.25Ghz 15" PB 512MB RAM 80Gb HD AE BT I want to order today. What is everyones opinions about refurbished computers from Apple here in the US. Are the reliable, do they come with iLife 04, panther all the cables etc??? Hope folks are on the boards, I'm going to be a switcher baby yeah!!!