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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by MACDRIVE, Jul 4, 2006.
Burning flags as a political statement and vandalism of private property are two different things.
Maybe I should have my own good ol flag burning today the 4th of July in America's Hometown.
Now wouldn't that be fun
If the locals didn't hang you, maybe.
Burning the flag can be a political statement. But in this case it seems to be a statement of pure ignorance.
I still wouldn't ban flag-burning. The worst thing you do is acknowledge these creeps in any way. Better to ignore 'em and let their execrable act speak for itself.
There is already a law against vandalism and trespassing, so this act is covered already.
I've got one set aside to burn in public in the event that Congress ever passes an amendment against doing so.
As do I. I'm sure if Congress passes this amendment eventually we will see a huge increase in flag burning in this country.
Does anyone really think that this would have happened if there hadn't been the high profile amendment in Congress recently? If Congress had not issued the Amendment and it had not been in the press I doubt that the act would have even passed by the minds of the vandals. In effect this becomes a self-fulfilling legislation with the publicity around it giving some delinquents the idea to burn the flag, and thus providing the epidemic we need a law for.
These are cowards who burn other people's flags in secret, not protesters.
But I'm sure there will be elements on the right who will make no distinction between the two...
Who's to say that it isn't someone on the right torching the flags simply to inflame the issue further? It seems to be a blue collar kind of neighborhood and I can't imagine a bunch of radicals hanging out there. Of course, it could also simply be bored suburban kids looking for something to do. Until those who committed the crime are caught, it seems sort of silly to declare them leftist radicals....
It could even be semi-ignorant suburbanites with a bunch of old, worn-out frayed flags.
What do you do with flags when they are too worn to display (it's disrespectful to display a worn-out American flag)? You burn them.
The preferred method is in a cardboard tube or other vessel so that you don't see the flag itself in mid-conflagration.
Which they probably would :/
What's your point?
I would have never burned the flag before. Especially someone else's flag. That's just stupid. This is all about vandalism. If you're going to burn a flag, burn your own. But if you're going to burn someone else's, you should be prosecuted for vandalism and arson, not being unpatriotic. Hopefully, if they catch them, they treat it as such.
I just hope this doesn't turn into a First Amendment issue because it isn't.
Bingo- thinking is tough for people on the right.
Anyone seen Doonesbury lately?
Well this should feed the FoxNews propaganda machine, I think I can already hear this issue shudder to life; and of course, the difference between a random act of vandalism will be conflated with political speech and the distinctions will be ignored or brushed aside.
I doubt it. The flag burning thing was a nonissue from the getgo. Too few wanting to make it into an amendment, and far too many people saying go ahead and burn it.
Which is actually kinda sad if you think about it.
Wasn't this the issue that failed in the Senate by a single vote?
I was talking about people (scroll down), not politicians.