For Sale: Ambassadorships

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by rdowns, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Just disgusting. This practice needs to stop.


    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/noah_mamet_argentina_ambassador_nominee
     
  2. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    But how will we ever have presidents elected if the big donors/bundlers can't be promised a cushy job?!?!


    It'd be a shame to have the population actually control it's democratic system, think of the chaos! ;)
     
  3. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Gosh....I'm shocked.:eek: <----- Me being shocked!

    Ambassadorships have never been given out as political favors before!

    Darn that Obama guy!






    Yes...it's disgusting when anybody does it!
     
  4. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Funnily enough, Senatorships were given out the same way prior to the 17th Amendment being passed. Funny now how people want that back now as we complain about ambassadorships, however ambassadors are more diplomatic than political.

    BL.
     
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    I vaguely recall that this has not been uncommon, for quite some time. When was Joe Kennedy ambassador to the Court of St. James? ("Vaguely", since I was just a kid at the time.)
     
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  8. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    For one, context in cherry picking a statement makes a huge difference.
     
  9. Moyank24 macrumors 601

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    I wonder how much it would cost me to become Ambassador to the Isle of Lesbos?
     
  10. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    An arm and sadly, a third leg. :(

    A bit self defeating don't you think?
     
  11. chown33 macrumors 604

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    Let me know when I can pick one up at Target.

    No, I'll pay cash, not a credit card.
     
  12. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    You have knowledge of this place which outstrips the subject of this thread.

    Do you think they are in need of a Father-figure? :eek:
     
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  14. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    If only. It's been standard operating procedure for years, on both sides.
     
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    It's pretty old hat, to be honest, that minor US ambassadorships are doled out to supporters and fundraisers. What is surprising is how high up the hierarchy of postings it sometimes reaches. Is it not considered important to have a professional in such positions?
     
  16. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I can't say who invented this practice, but, it was not even considered corrupt when I was a kid. Just standard practice. It was always assumed that the career Foreign Service Officers were the experts, not the Ambassador. Not easy becoming an FSO.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Service#Employment

    I once knew a guy who worked as a Marine Guard at embassies oversees. Hilarious stories (details omitted to protect the incompetent) about Ambassadors. The flip side is that sometimes when people take risks bad things happen.

    Actually, some of the wealthy donors apparently are pretty darn good at dealing with the rich and powerful people at the top in many countries. So, for some countries, having the attitude of the rich might actually be a bona fide job qualification.
     
  17. skunk macrumors G4

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    It takes a little more than money to be an effective diplomat.
     
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    Sometimes fame is the only thing required. Ford appointed Shirley Temple Black as ambassador to Ghana and GWH Bush appointed her as ambassador to czechoslavakia.
     
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    Ya Caroline Kennedy is ambassador to Japan.
     
  20. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    Put me down for ambassador to Cupertino.

    And yes, I take bribes from the locals.
     
  21. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Which goes a long way toward explaining our relations with many nations.
     
  22. skunk macrumors G4

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    You read between my lines exceedingly well.
     
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    It's his specialty. ;)
     
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    Excellent post, and a very necessary point mentioned; for what it is worth, most European countries have a professional public service, (entry usually by competitive examination, requiring specific qualifications) and a professional diplomatic corps, from the ranks of which such appointments are usually made.



    It may not have been considered 'corrupt' domestically in the US, but I'd hardly call it 'best practice' anywhere in the First World, and most certainly would not recommend that it be emulated.

    Exactly. Professional and personal competence, courtesy, good judgement, cultural awareness, the capacity to critically analyse what is happening under your nose [politically].....are all at least of equal importance....

    Well, I'm not sure that either money or fame should be the - or even a - major criterion when considering someone for an Ambassadorial appointment.

    Indeed, it does. Unfortunately.
     
  25. bradl macrumors 68040

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    They should recall her, and make Emanuelle Lewis ambassador to Japan. He's a star (of Michael Jackson proportions) there. It would only be fitting.

    BL.
     

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