Four Republicans block Obamacare repeal bill in Senate

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  1. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Four Republicans block Obamacare repeal bill in Senate
    Moran and Lee are the latest to say they won't let this version of the bill move to the Senate floor.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/17/obamacare-senators-turn-on-mcconnell-240646

    Republican Sens. Mike Lee and Jerry Moran said Monday night they will join two other senators to oppose the Obamacare repeal bill, dooming the GOP initiative in the Senate.

    Republican leaders could only afford to lose two senators on the procedural motion to start debate on the bill. Lee and Moran would join Sens. Susan Collins and Rand Paul in opposition to the version of the bill currently before the Senate. But with four senators declared "no" votes – and several more undecided – Senate Republicans wouldn’t have enough votes to even start debate on repealing Obamacare, the campaign promise they have made to voters for seven years.
     
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  4. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    Why? Why would you all these people morons. Please quantify that statement.
     
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    Unaffordable don't care act needs to go. At the very least the mandate needs to go , trump said he would. Get rid of it so it needs to go
     
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    seems you don't pay attention no one has to buy it now. asleep at the wheel again?
     
  7. Populism, Jul 17, 2017
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    As I have said several times before, go ahead and search me, the absolute smartest thing that any Republican that wants to remain in office can do is to do everything he or she can to keep Obamacare intact.

    It is failing mightily. Obamacare does not need the help of Republicans to make it fail.

    Give it one year. Maybe two.

    Literally, do nothing, and the Unaffordable Care Act will continue to destroy itself.

    In that regard, I absolutely applaud these four Republicans.

    Likewise, The smartest play for liberals/Democrats/progressives to make is to bait Republicans into repealing Obamacare.

    Good for them for luring Republicans into the biggest dumbass trap ever.
     
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    I guess this means that, at some obscure and unfathomable level, democracy works.

    Too liberal for Rand Paul; too Conservative for Susan Collins. This nightmare is DOA.

    The fact that this whole **** show got put on hold while Sen. John McCain was recovering from Government-paid blood-clot surgery will be lost on many of the usual suspects.

    But sometimes I think that some people, and Americans in particular, delight in making life more difficult for themselves. Healthcare is Exhibit 1A in that argument.
     
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    I wouldn't go that far. They won't vote for motion to precede because it's not conservative enough for them. Collins may be the only one with a conscience.
     
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    There is no penalty for not having it? Source please
     
  11. citizenzen, Jul 17, 2017
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    I saw something about that after my comment.

    Leave it up to Republicans, to withhold their support because it doesn't kill enough people.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 17, 2017 ---
    Captain, there's a leak in the hold. Shall we start the pumps?

    No. Let it leak. Eventually, we'll sink, and I'm hoping the passengers will blame the ship builder.
     
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    To me - this isn't a game - it's people's lives.
     
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    Charles Blow's NYT column got it right for me: says GOP has engaged in pretty much unprecedented lying about health care...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/opinion/trumpcare-congressional-budget-office.html

    Instead, at every stage of this political fight [the Republicans] have claimed to be doing exactly the opposite of what they’re actually doing: covering more people, making health care cheaper, protecting Americans with pre-existing conditions. We’re not talking about run-of-the-mill spin here; we’re talking about black is white, up is down, dishonesty so raw it’s practically surreal. This isn’t just an assault on health care, it’s an assault on truth itself.

    Will this vileness prevail? Your guess is as good as mine about whether Mitch McConnell will hold on to the 50 senators he needs. But the mere possibility that this much cruelty, wrapped in this much fraudulence, might pass is a horrifying indictment of his party.
    Ha, maybe Jerry Moran and Mike Lee read that piece before going to work today, and bailing on the bill.
     
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    Then why the political snark?
     
  15. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Because you don't seem to care how much these political games cost lives.

    Snark is the nicest thing you should expect.
     
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    Honestly never thought we'd agree on anything.

    Yet here we are, green Obamacare is a sinking ship.
     
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    What political snark? Have I made any in regards to the HC bill? Certainly not in this thread.
     
  18. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    And you're the captain ... no, more like the deckhand ... unwilling to do anything to right the ship.
     
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    Everything else can stay in place. .....except the mandate
     
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    Didn't we hear that the year before and the one before that?
     
  21. Populism macrumors regular

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    From me?
     
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    did really? do you know what www.google.com is?
    http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2017/02/16/442006.htm
    Citing Trump’s Order, IRS Stops Enforcing Individual Mandate for Health Insurance

    but it seems you supposed to still buy it but there is no penalty. man talk
    about a typical trump half assed thing.
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    who knows? from republicans for sure.
     
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    Why'd you quote me with Republicans, stevie knight?

    Lolzzzz

    Doesn't matter. You go unchecked here.

    Even if you don't substantiate.

    Don'tcha?
     
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    You spelled other peoples money wrong.
     
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    Well. Now we know what you value most.
     

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