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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by SMM, Aug 22, 2007.
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Their wikismear campaign against some of their critics is documented here.
I especially love the one about the black "X" appearing over Cheney's face for 1/7th of a second (changed from 1/15th of a second).
Television pictures transmit at 30 frames per second. Last time I checked, 15 divides evenly into 30, but 7 does not.
So they're not only adding stuff that's biased; some of it's also physically impossible.
And this is from people who work in television.
Yeah, but 1/7.5 doesn't have the same ring, nor does 2/15ths...
people don't deal with 15ths or even 16ths enough to have any experience but 7 is close enough to 8ths or 10ths to get people to recognize it more easily...
why they didn't just go with a 10th is a bit of a mystery...
Here is a direct link to the wikiscanner. If you click on the middle column with the numbers a side-by-side comparison will pop into a frame.
My favorite one is:
Changes are in red.
I can totally see Olbermann doing that, cuz he's such a self-righteous bastard.
And a complete article and more general thread here:
It looks like everyone is doing this, Apple, Dell, Microsoft and anyone who has a message that they want a favorable spin on...
So, why is it important for this story to be highlighted with Fox making changes rather than highlighting it as the Democratic Party making changes to people that are opposed to them or as an observation that people across the spectrum are making changes? Just curious.
this is the problem with wiki, anyone can come in and edit it.
and as it expands, they're going to have to expand their review panel so that less stuff slips through the cracks.
Because the fair and balanced network is evidently evil!!
Go ahead and pound Fox, but pound everyone else who does it too.
what's a "Wikipedia Fact"?
Nice. Post of the day!
Yeah, I wouldn't get up too high on that horse about FOXNews Nutwork and their penchant for wiki editing. That wiki tracker thing is going to embarrass a whole lot of people on both sides of the aisle (and plenty of others with no political axe to grind) before the dust settles.
Yep. On sites like wikipedia, there needs to be full disclosure of people's identities. Anonymous posting is fine on forums like this but if wikipedia wants to be taken seriously, they need to change their policies.
Odd how this thread has attracted so much more interest than the more general thread on this topic. I suppose every time the "F" word gets dropped, some people automatically pay attention.
I'm sorry, did you just mention the "F" word?
Yes, Fox. I am deeply sorry.
Primetime entertainment. Somewhere between Jerry Springer and Phil Hendrie. Unfortunately, some people are misled by that "news" word.
Presentation. People down here love to hate FOX news. If the thread you started was titled something like, "Microsoft Caught editing Wikipedia facts" it would probably be 3 pages long by now.
I know, I know -- and if I wore a tie, I'd have a better job.
I saw a bumper sticker about a year ago, that had the Fox new logo on it, followed by this caption: "Fox News. Big Brother is Watching, shouldn't you be too?"
Don't know why, but I like it.
But none of them claim to be a fair and balanced news organization.
Because, again, Fox claims to be fair and balanced. They were caught being not so much. Plus, it turns out, as usual, a lot of it was factually incorrect.
Bias is bad enough, lying just makes it worse.
Maybe, but at least he isn't a liar.
I read a New York Times article about this a few days ago (link) and found it very interesting. I don't really know how it can be policied aside from having a large number of devoted volunteers, because any sort of censoring on a large scale would be contrarian to the whole idea behind Wikipedia. You really just have to spot treat any issues that arise.
You must be new here.
Come now Lyle, that's just a cheap shot.
I started a thread on this topic days before this one, which attracted a grand total of six posts, two of which were mine. I didn't see you there, did I?